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issoisso
I had no idea where to put this, so it goes here.

Here's an article I found interesting. Sorry for not naming a source, but a friend passed it onto me so i have no idea where it's originally from

Domestiques: A Dying Race?

[13.01 16:04] Although a rider has to ride his own bike there is absolutely no doubt among fans that cycling is very much a team sport as well. One of the familiar characters on the cycling scene is the so-called domestiques.

But domestiques aren't what they used to be.

"They still exist, but it's not like the old days, where there were loads of them and where they had only one task throughout the season: Helping the team's big stars," explains Team CSC sports director Kim Andersen using his own team as an example:

"We still have some riders, who are mostly helpers, but really we prefer they give it a shot and go for it themselves once in a while. You could say that on Team CSC we have two riders belonging to that ”old school” category: Volodymir Gustov and Inigo Cuesta."

Cuesta turns 39 this coming season and has some great results from stage races in the past. His latest stage win was in the 2005 edition of Volta a Catalunya. He's been very dedicated to his role as domestique though – especially for Carlos Sastre, but also other riders on the team. He was seventh in Deutschland Tour in 2006, where he assisted Jens Voigt in the mountains.

30-year-old Gustov only has one pro victory under his belt from Regio Tour 2003, but he's been a great asset to his team mates countless times. For example for Sastre in last year's Vuelta and for Dave Zabriskie in Dauphiné Libéré.

"It's hard to get Inigo to go any further. His found his niche and he's sticking to it, but I sometimes wish that he'd take some chances for himself once in a while. Of course there are certain races, where we insist they function as domestiques, but there are also other ones where we'd like for them to try their own chances, but it's so ingrained in them that's it's really hard to change," says Kim Andersen.

"In Dauphiné Libéré and at the beginning of Vuelta a España Gustov was given free reigns to make a go of it for himself. But I think maybe he doesn't have enough confidence and maybe finds it hard to make the exact right break. But there's absolutely no doubt whatsoever about Volodymir's importance to the team in his role as a domestique. Both he and Inigo are highly regarded among their team mates and well liked – and that's important to remember. It's their strength in the mountains, which makes them so important, because their kind don't grow on trees these days," determines the Danish sports director, who would have liked to see Gustov a bit more eager to attack, when he was on top form during Dauphiné Libéré in 2007.

"It would've been exciting to see Volodymir go for a top spot in Dauphiné Libéré, where he was 12th in 2007, even tough he spent a lot of resources helping out Dave Zabriskie in stead. I could see him as a contender for a podium spot if he was to go for it," finishes Kim Andersen.



This is why I love Kim Andersen. He loves to talk about the stuff that I love to read Smile
Edited by issoisso on 18-01-2008 16:00
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Crommy
@ doping - Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
It appears to be disappearing in the cycling world, where accusations are almost treated as if they are facts. I find it sad that cyclists are labelled dopers for no good reason.
Edited by Crommy on 18-01-2008 16:40
 
issoisso
Crommy wrote:
@ doping - Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
It appears to be disappearing in the cycling world, where accusations are almost treated as if they are facts. I find it sad that cyclists are labelled dopers for no good reason.


When we took the decision of wiping the slate for 2007 and building a new squad commited to racing clean we held a few dozen interviews with prospective riders to be hired.
About three out of four "suddenly remembered" they had a better offer from someone else very the moment we explained how we were commited to the fight against doping. Only one openly told me he refused to race clean. Most of those riders are household names for fans and quite a few have "clean" reputations

- Bob Stapleton, circa early 2007

Edited by issoisso on 18-01-2008 20:36
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ruben
There's allways Jan Boven, the ultimate domestique :lol:
 
fefj
isso, your article is from CSC's website. And it is indeed good.
 
Addy291
Apparently Jonathon Bellis was at CSC's training camp and Bjarne Riis said he was very impressed with him B)
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CrueTrue
It's been rumoured for a long time now that Bellis is going to join CSC -- I think he will at some point. Might not be this season, though.
 
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fefj
Yes, i'm an ignorant...but who is Jonathon Bellis?
 
CrueTrue
A 19-year-old British rider who has mainly archieved things on the track. You can read a little about him here: https://www.cyclingwebsite.net/coureur...urid=19859
 
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mattiasgt
When we took the decision of wiping the slate for 2007 and building a new squad commited to racing clean we held a few dozen interviews with prospective riders to be hired.
About three out of four "suddenly remembered" they had a better offer from someone else very the moment we explained how we were commited to the fight against doping. Only one openly told me he refused to race clean. Most of those riders are household names for fans and quite a few have "clean" reputations

- Bob Stapleton, circa early 2007


So we can assume that 3/4 of the 2006 T-Mobile team are and was riding on candy. This is probably how it is in most of the other old teams. Pretty hard to be a youngster trying to win clean today. Frown
Edited by mattiasgt on 20-01-2008 14:22
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CrueTrue wrote:
A 19-year-old British rider who has mainly archieved things on the track. You can read a little about him here: https://www.cyclingwebsite.net/coureur...urid=19859


Mainly on the track, but with 3rd in the 2007 U23 Worlds, he looks set to be good on the road too (I hope).
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mattiasgt wrote:
When we took the decision of wiping the slate for 2007 and building a new squad commited to racing clean we held a few dozen interviews with prospective riders to be hired.
About three out of four "suddenly remembered" they had a better offer from someone else very the moment we explained how we were commited to the fight against doping. Only one openly told me he refused to race clean. Most of those riders are household names for fans and quite a few have "clean" reputations

- Bob Stapleton, circa early 2007


So we can assume that 3/4 of the 2006 T-Mobile team are and was riding on candy. This is probably how it is in most of the other old teams. Pretty hard to be a youngster trying to win clean today. Frown


Well, it's several times been said (for example by Sinkewitz) that the entire Tour team of T-Mobile in 2006 was doped, and if you look at the riders you can't be surprised.
 
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issoisso
mattiasgt wrote:
When we took the decision of wiping the slate for 2007 and building a new squad commited to racing clean we held a few dozen interviews with prospective riders to be hired.
About three out of four "suddenly remembered" they had a better offer from someone else very the moment we explained how we were commited to the fight against doping. Only one openly told me he refused to race clean. Most of those riders are household names for fans and quite a few have "clean" reputations

- Bob Stapleton, circa early 2007


So we can assume that 3/4 of the 2006 T-Mobile team are and was riding on candy. This is probably how it is in most of the other old teams. Pretty hard to be a youngster trying to win clean today. Frown


you misunderstand. he was talking about 3 out of every 4 riders from other teams that were interviewed for the possibility of signing with T-Mobile for the 2007 season.

I remember the news back then...they went after half the world...even Bettini and Valverde rejected huge offers from them. Bettini said he was more comfortable at Quickstep and Valverde said he'd stay at Caisse if they matched T-Mobile's offer...which they did, making Valverde the currently best-payed rider in the peloton at 2.7 million per year.
Edited by issoisso on 20-01-2008 14:31
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Levi4life
https://velonews.com/race/int/articles...933.0.html

Slipstream is headed to the Giro, Milan San Remo and Tirreno-Addriatico
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Waghlon
Aaaannnnd the Tour of Utah?
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issoisso
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Aaaannnnd the Tour of Utah?



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Levi4life
:lol::lol::lol:
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mattiasgt
issoisso wrote:
mattiasgt wrote:
When we took the decision of wiping the slate for 2007 and building a new squad commited to racing clean we held a few dozen interviews with prospective riders to be hired.
About three out of four "suddenly remembered" they had a better offer from someone else very the moment we explained how we were commited to the fight against doping. Only one openly told me he refused to race clean. Most of those riders are household names for fans and quite a few have "clean" reputations

- Bob Stapleton, circa early 2007


So we can assume that 3/4 of the 2006 T-Mobile team are and was riding on candy. This is probably how it is in most of the other old teams. Pretty hard to be a youngster trying to win clean today. Frown


you misunderstand. he was talking about 3 out of every 4 riders from other teams that were interviewed for the possibility of signing with T-Mobile for the 2007 season.

I remember the news back then...they went after half the world...even Bettini and Valverde rejected huge offers from them. Bettini said he was more comfortable at Quickstep and Valverde said he'd stay at Caisse if they matched T-Mobile's offer...which they did, making Valverde the currently best-payed rider in the peloton at 2.7 million per year.


Wups, didn't read careful enough, but still scary.
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issoisso
Here's something interesting I just randomly found by accident

"This year I worked a lot in the wind tunnel to take a new position," he remarked on his time trial position. "After all the work before the Tour de Suisse, the UCI changed the rules, and all this work was wasted. I had no choice but to retake the position I had last year, because it was the last one I studied and practiced. I told the mechanics to put the bike in the same position as last year, and that we would see."

- Carlos Sastre

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Levi4life
The UCI is screwy. Zabriskie was asked to change his TT bars at worlds this year while wating to start just outside the gate. The same bars he had used for the past three years.

He negotiated is way out of it but gave the UCI official an earfullPfft


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