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PCM.daily DB Stats discussion
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 17-07-2013 19:36
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Rojas is one of weirdest rider ever to rate He deserves 76 by some of his Tour results.
But then again he deserves 72 for some of his other sprints where's he's a big favourite yet still fails against lower competition he should beat.
So for that, and considering his hill stat, he'll likely to have 75 at the next update.
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 17-07-2013 19:40
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DaDa_Dave wrote:
What are you guys thinking of the sprint/acceleration stats for sprinters with the new acceleration system?
I experienced in the few tours I've played that guys like Contador or Rodriguez regulary get good positions in mass sprints if they have good positioning before the sprint.
So what about giving guys like Rojas, who get alot of solid results without being fast enough to win stages stats around 74/80 Spr/Acc and guys like Renshaw or Steegmans who are good lead out men, but lack the positioning to win themselves, stats around 77/71 Spr/Acc?
Not a bad idea, but then so many things would be messed up...
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-07-2013 08:55
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Alakagom wrote:
Rojas is one of weirdest rider ever to rate He deserves 76 by some of his Tour results.
But then again he deserves 72 for some of his other sprints where's he's a big favourite yet still fails against lower competition he should beat.
So for that, and considering his hill stat, he'll likely to have 75 at the next update.
That is so true  He's a weird cat. Other I find difficult to rate are Voeckler and De Gendt. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:22
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Best climbers of the Tour and the stats right now in DB. Debatable of course, Froome potentially deserves 83 which could happen yet.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:28
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What about Kreuziger? That's a tough choice... |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:30
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He's an 78 right now, could be potentially 79 though.
Edited by Alakagom on 18-07-2013 18:30
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:32
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Sounds fair. If we make him too high, he'll perform too well all year long, that's not realistic |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:33
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Ian Butler wrote:
Sounds fair. If we make him too high, he'll perform too well all year long, that's not realistic
Exactly, he deserves 79 if not 80 after domestiquing Cotnador so well, but he relatively sucked this year in mountains in other races ( nowhere near what he's doing at Tour ) hence 78 seems fair enough for now.
Edited by Alakagom on 18-07-2013 18:34
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| jph27 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:34
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What about Uran? 78 I'm guessing? |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:36
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Alakagom wrote:
Best climbers of the Tour and the stats right now in DB. Debatable of course, Froome potentially deserves 83 which could happen yet.
Valverde, Contador and Rodriguez are the hardest to judge. I'd say Valv is better than Contador, but maybe secondary stats are better for him. (Im assuming Hill will be)
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:38
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jph27 wrote:
What about Uran? 78 I'm guessing?
Yes  There's about 9 riders on 78.
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Yes Valv, Valverde has 80/80 while Contador 80/78.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:40
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What about Schleck?
And I wonder, after this Tour, Rolland and Voeckler? |
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| Sankt Croix |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:42
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Alakagom wrote:
jph27 wrote:
What about Uran? 78 I'm guessing?
Yes There's about 9 riders on 78.
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Can we see them? |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:49
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Lemme Guess:
Mollema
Uran
Henao
Evans
Fuglsang
Betancur
Rogers
Ten Dam
I bet I missed someone. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-07-2013 18:53
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Van Garderen? Rolland? Van Den Broeck, maybe? |
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| masch20 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 19:01
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Talansky 78 Dan Martin 77 Hesjedal 77(or maybe 78 because he is riding with fractured rib) Danielson 75 in MO! agree?
Edited by masch20 on 18-07-2013 19:02
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 19:03
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masch20 wrote:
Talansky 78 Dan Martin 77 Hesjedal 77(or maybe 78 because he is riding with fractured rib) Danielson 75 in MO! agree?
Too high for Talansky and Danielson (who is also massively overrated in TT and PRL).
Another guy who needs to be lowered is Szmyd. Has anyone seen him race since the 2011 Giro?
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-07-2013 19:08
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
Another guy who needs to be lowered is Szmyd. Has anyone seen him race since the 2011 Giro?
Yes, I saw him in the 2012 Giro pulling 50 men big groups.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-07-2013 19:09
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kumazan wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Another guy who needs to be lowered is Szmyd. Has anyone seen him race since the 2011 Giro?
Yes, I saw him in the 2012 Giro pulling 50 men big groups.
Embarrassing typo... 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 18-07-2013 19:10
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Mollema
Wiggins
Evans ( debatable to 77 )
Hesjedal
Uran
Kreuziger
Scarponi ( debatable to 77 )
Van Der Broeck
Betancur
Niemiec is 77 right now, but he's on a big verge to being a 78. He's doing very similar job to Kreuziger, however Giro field was of lower quality has to be said.
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