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Volta Ciclista a Catalunya 2013
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| ruben |
Posted on 20-03-2013 18:00
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
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Gesink showing once again that he cant climb with the best, wasting the effort of his teammates.
Maybe this is he's current form. He will be much stronger after few months.
Like Taaramäe..he was like lost child at Paris-Nice..I still believe that he will be back...and strong like also Gesink.
I am not too sure that Gesink could fulfill this high expectations that some people do have in him.
I like him, but i have to agree. Same with Tarramae, it looks like the guy is catching famous Kreuziger syndrome. 
No, because unlike Kreuziger Gesink still shows glimpses of class every year. (for example AtoC last year, Suisse was pretty good too except 1st stage).
He only had 2 good training rides since PN so his form was a big question mark. I think he's ok, not good, but ok, missing that bit of shape you need to go with the others when they really attack.
Still doing better than the Giro winner of last year today 
Edited by ruben on 20-03-2013 18:00
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-03-2013 18:14
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Surprised Wiggins hanged on to the duo at the end, looking good for Wiggo for Giro. Quintana very impressive.
George Bennet on 20th is a very nice result for him as well.
Niemiec continuing the great form from Tirreno, great.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 20-03-2013 19:08
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Gesink lost 32 seconds, together with Van den Broeck, Moreno and Lopez. Bennett, Aru and Durasek also in that group. Impressive from all of those, imo.
Hesjedal was 50th, at 2'11. Worth remembering is that this is his first race of the season. Menchov at 2'26 seems to have lost all of his Paris-Nice form on the other hand.
Edited by Pellizotti2 on 20-03-2013 19:08
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 20-03-2013 19:34
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I like him, but i have to agree. Same with Tarramae, it looks like the guy is catching famous Kreuziger syndrome.
Break an arm once and then get sick just before PN and your Gesink? Don't be too harsh with Taaramäe. Lets see if he can be good at the Tour.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-03-2013 19:41
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Bosskardo wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I like him, but i have to agree. Same with Tarramae, it looks like the guy is catching famous Kreuziger syndrome.
Break an arm once and then get sick just before PN and your Gesink? Don't be too harsh with Taaramäe. Lets see if he can be good at the Tour.
It's not that he's Gesink. He's been way worse for all of his career.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 20-03-2013 20:56
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Now he's never going to have the acceleration of Purito  but it looks like Wiggins may have found some motivation through a different approach outside of just the different race programme (or he might just be using Catalunya for a bit of fun considering the lack of a TT) but this does indeed bode well for the Giro for him. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-03-2013 20:59
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ianrussell wrote:
Now he's never going to have the acceleration of Purito but it looks like Wiggins may have found some motivation through a different approach outside of just the different race programme (or he might just be using Catalunya for a bit of fun considering the lack of a TT) but this does indeed bode well for the Giro for him.
Then again, today's power outputs have been very low, around 380 W (for a 70+8 kg model). It takes 420 or so in such climbs to win GT these days.
Maybe we'll see more significant performances in the coming days, but I wouldn't consider today's as meaningful. Quite the opposite actually. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 20-03-2013 21:02
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Aquarius wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Now he's never going to have the acceleration of Purito but it looks like Wiggins may have found some motivation through a different approach outside of just the different race programme (or he might just be using Catalunya for a bit of fun considering the lack of a TT) but this does indeed bode well for the Giro for him.
Then again, today's power outputs have been very low, around 380 W (for a 70+8 kg model). It takes 420 or so in such climbs to win GT these days.
Maybe we'll see more significant performances in the coming days, but I wouldn't consider today's as meaningful. Quite the opposite actually.
Indeed that's why I said it bodes well. I'm prepared to commit a little more, one way or the other, around day 19 of the Giro
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 20-03-2013 21:18
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Further to that some stats for the last climb from a usually reliable Twitter source vetooo@ammattipyoraily:
Volta a Catalunya, Vallter 2000 (12.05km, 7.49%, 903m). Bradley Wiggins: 34 min 26 sec, 21.00 Kph, VAM 1573 m/h, 5.72 W/kg.
While that's not super high it's not that far off, especially given it's still March. It was quite a long climb at around 35 minutes. Taking a quote from the Sciene of Sport website published during last years (2012) Tour:
"In the last four years, none of the Tour's decisive HC climbs have been done at greater than 6 W/kg." |
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| Smal |
Posted on 20-03-2013 21:21
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The low wattage is probably just what happens when Sky don't control things. I think it was Kruijswijk on the front for most of the climb and he wasn't going very fast. He was barely making inroads on Edet and it took an attack from someone from Caja Rural for them to actually catch him more than halfway up the climb. It didn't look very steep either.
Edited by Smal on 20-03-2013 21:22
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| Flair |
Posted on 20-03-2013 23:52
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I think Wiggins is riding more relaxed. He used to ride like this, The lack of real action helped for sure, but I think because he has that tour now the pressure is off a little. Froome is taking a much bigger role, picking up major points. So Wiggins feels freer to ride how he wants rather then just sticking to the game plan all the time.
His pretty tactically astute, so he knows that teams will eventually work out how to overcome to Sky train, as its not perfect. So his keeping his option open.
I hope so anyway, otherwise Nibbles will walk with Giro pretty easy the way his looking.
I think tomorrow will explode though. Everyone i feel was saving for tomo. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-03-2013 23:54
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Several interesting performances
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| jph27 |
Posted on 21-03-2013 07:23
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issoisso wrote:
Several interesting performances
I'm intrigued. In a good or bad way? |
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 21-03-2013 09:11
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Quintana such a talent. Brilliant win yesterday.
Nearly dropped dead when l saw Wiggins attack. Must be a first for everything....
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| Farmer Sam |
Posted on 21-03-2013 11:00
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Very big and very strong break up the road, it includes;
Dan Martin and Ryder Hesjedal, Gianluca Brambilla, Carlos Betancur, Fabio Aru, Steven Kruisjwijk, Robert Kiserlovski, Laurens Ten Dam, Ivan Santaromita Cristiano Salerno, Mikel Astarloza, Laurent Pichon, Alberto Losada, Yuri Trofimov, Simone Stortoni |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 21-03-2013 11:24
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Only Sky and Movistar don't have a helper on that group. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 21-03-2013 11:30
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Miguel98 wrote:
Only Sky and Movistar don't have a helper on that group.
That's not a full list Pate is there apparently \o/  |
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| Welwyn |
Posted on 21-03-2013 11:34
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ianrussell wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Only Sky and Movistar don't have a helper on that group.
That's not a full list Pate is there apparently \o/
Yep, Sky saying he's in the break on twitter. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 21-03-2013 12:15
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Break not being given much rope - gap reported to be 2'45" at the top of the 3rd climb after 86km. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 21-03-2013 12:16
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Welwyn wrote:
ianrussell wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Only Sky and Movistar don't have a helper on that group.
That's not a full list Pate is there apparently \o/
Yep, Sky saying he's in the break on twitter.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. |
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