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Frank Schleck Positive
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 17-07-2012 22:38
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No, I'm saying maybe he knew he forgot to take his "cover up" drug at the right time. So he had to take it later, with more chance of being caught or something like that.
Its just a crazy theory, but in hindsight I find it odd that the team say they will work for him, but he publically says he does not want to be leader.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 17-07-2012 22:46
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Cover up : short time effects. It's most likely unrelated to his refusal to lead.
Period of detection for that product must be relatively short, so he got caught for it after a surprise test, or he took it too late, trying to hide something else, thinking it wouldn't be worst to be caught for that.
Once again, it shows that some riders, even going for a lousy 12th overall, and no particular ambition, can't conceive cycling without doping/cheating.
Also, just thinking/wondering : aren't diuretics used to make you pee the extra volume of fluid after you got a transfusion ? Because taking blood out before would mean taking some red cells out, whilst a diuretic would only make you pee (reducing the amount of plasma but leaving red cells amounts almost unharmed). After all rest days are Blood Bag Days (Blood Bag Tuesday).
Any help on the matter ?
Edited by Aquarius on 17-07-2012 22:53
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 17-07-2012 23:28
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So I sit at work from 10-19:30 without anything really happening, and the moment I'm finally off work, hell breaks loose. Awesome 
Oh well, Schleck deserves a ban after the Fuentes affair, but since he did manage to get off the hook once, why not again?  |
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 17-07-2012 23:28
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Some big news to wake up to, shows that the new German team is now, well, screwed. (For the moment anyway.)
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-07-2012 00:27
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issoisso wrote:
felix_29 wrote:
Please, Oleg, with that logic you could make any rider a doper.
Frank Schleck is on Radioshack with Johan Bruyneel who was on Postal with Lance Armstrong who was in Dodgeball with Justin Long who was in Beyond all Boundaries with KEVIN BACON!
There. In five.
Please isso don't post gems like this when I'm drinking my coffee 
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| themajortard |
Posted on 18-07-2012 00:57
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Aquarius wrote:
Also, just thinking/wondering : aren't diuretics used to make you pee the extra volume of fluid after you got a transfusion ? Because taking blood out before would mean taking some red cells out, whilst a diuretic would only make you pee (reducing the amount of plasma but leaving red cells amounts almost unharmed). After all rest days are Blood Bag Days (Blood Bag Tuesday).
Any help on the matter ?
Taking a diuretic will increase your urineflow (how fast the urine goes through your body) which results in lower levels of the banned substance being excreted from the body. And apparently one of the side effects of taking diuretics is hypovolemia (decrease in the amount of blood plasma)
If you wanna find out more, here is a page with a lot of info: https://www.doping...gents.html |
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| cosmic |
Posted on 18-07-2012 01:25
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Bring on lifetime bans for clear cut cases (ie there's no doubt the rider has taken performance enhancing drugs to get an unfair advantage).
Not that I'd miss any of the cry baby Schlecks if they vanished |
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| 9-Ball |
Posted on 18-07-2012 04:38
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Schleck requested his B-sample be tested and will claim he was 'poisoned' according to a CN article.
Schleck's full statement translated from French by Cyclingnews:
"A doctor from the UCI has tonight informed me that a Prohibited Substance has been detected in my urine during a routine doping control performed on July 14, 2012.
"I categorically deny taking any banned substance. I have no explanation for the test result and therefore insist that the B sample be tested which is my right. If this analysis confirms the initial result, I will argue that I have been the victim of poisoning."
Full article quoted from [https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/frank-schleck-requests-b-sample-will-claim-hes-been-poisoned].
Bruyneel in the team closet with a diuretic syringe, anyone?
It was eleven more than necessary.
Jacques Anquetil
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 04:39
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| Rotsac |
Posted on 18-07-2012 04:40
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I hope he didnt used doping and will wait for the final stuff. |
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| BrokenShards |
Posted on 18-07-2012 05:21
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Not sure what to make of it, I half hope he didn't cheat, but in this day and age, it seems odd a pro rider would allow them selves to put something into their body they didn't know.
After all the steak-saga I would have thought all riders would be extra vigilant.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 07:15
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No wonder Andy didn't look that happy when he got given the tour victory when Contador got stripped of the title. He knew it was only a matter of time before he and his brother got done.
Wel thats the end of the Schleck's. If Franck can only manage 12th on drugs then whats the point in him coming back.
Andy can't ride without holding his brothers hand so might as well quit as well.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-07-2012 07:30
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Unexpected news,well the thing he has been caught is unexpected. Unfortunately, i think he will slip of this somehow and the case will be another at least a year saga...
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| dienblad |
Posted on 18-07-2012 08:00
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What is strange to me, is that he tested positive in a season in which he didn't ride 1 good result.....
Explanations:
1. He was seeking desperately for ways to improve his results.
2. He is suffering from heart failure and needs a diuretic or he will suffer from dyspnoe.
3. He saw some diuretics at his mothers kitchen table and thought they were m&m's
4. He is incredibly stupid and thinks "when Armstrong doens't get caught, neither will I".
5. Bruyneel gave the pills to him in the same way as a goose is prepared for foie gras....
6. Team Sky has hired some kind of hitman to eliminate their opponents and Cadel an Nibali are next.
As I always liked the Schleck-bros, I really won't miss Fränk in the Tour. I almost forgot he was in it, pretty invisible... But I hope for cycling that the B-sample is negative. Well, cycling will survive without him
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 08:35
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dienblad wrote:
What is strange to me, is that he tested positive in a season in which he didn't ride 1 good result.....
What about Suisse?
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Posted on 18-07-2012 08:41
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Pellizotti2 wrote:
dienblad wrote:
What is strange to me, is that he tested positive in a season in which he didn't ride 1 good result.....
What about Suisse?
Oh yes, 2nd behind Rui Costa and in front of Leipheimer and Gesink. These guys were and are really on fire this Tour.....
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-07-2012 08:42
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Isnt that self-explanation, he took some doping later in the season because of shite start of the season maybe?
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 18-07-2012 08:42
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 08:42
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dienblad wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
dienblad wrote:
What is strange to me, is that he tested positive in a season in which he didn't ride 1 good result.....
What about Suisse?
Oh yes, 2nd behind Rui Costa and in front of Leipheimer and Gesink. These guys were and are really on fire this Tour.....
He was pretty strong in the mountain stages though. Leipheimer probably peaked too early as well. Gesink, well, I'm not sure how he would've done without the crash.
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| Zanci93 |
Posted on 18-07-2012 10:00
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He had already over 75 racedays this year and for me he seemed really tired. But after this unsatisfactory year with the ilness in the giro and the bad results in the classics he was forced to show good performance at the tour and how would he be able to do that in his bad condition ?! Taking a break when you are tired would be first solution but taking drugs is regrettably the other one...  !
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| CLURPR |
Posted on 18-07-2012 10:39
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In regards to the police outside the hotel, Frank Schleck went and gave himself into the police apparently. |
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