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| Addy291 |
Posted on 06-06-2008 16:57
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Barcelona always sell young talents and are generally shit in the transfer market.
The sold Fabregas when he was young, now they've sold Giovani. They're selling Eto'o, they sold Riquelme, etc.
They are also shit at buying players; Gudjohnsen (has done nothing since he joined); Henry (waste of £18million); Albertini (way too old); Ezquerro (generally shit); Sylvinho (oh god)
The list goes on and on, they are awful in the transfer market and always have been, they rest on the fact that their academy is sensationally good. They've produced, Fabregas, Giovani, Bojan, Puyol, Valdes, Oleguer, Xavi and many other names I can't remember.
They do have some good deals, like Ronaldinho from PSG in 2003, Eto'o from Real Madrid in 2005 (I think), Deco was great as well. But now they're selling them all.
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Also, it appears that Aston Villa have finally caved in and accepted Liverpool's bid of £14million for Gareth Barry. I'm not sure where he'll fit in to be honest, who will he kick out of the starting 11, Gerrard? Mascherano?
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 06-06-2008 17:05
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Well they didn't sell Fabregas.. Arsenal stole Fabregas from Barcelona .. Because in spain you aren't allowed to sign player that aren't 17 or older.. But in England there aren't these rules.. Therefore Arsenal could sign Fabregas (almost for free)... Riquelme wasn't good for Barcelona so I can understand why they sold him .. But he's good now.. Selling Eto'o is the right thing .. He isn't his old self and he may be stuck in Barcelona.. They bought Eto'o from Mallorca  hehe not Real Madrid But Eto'o played for Real when he was 20-21 years old (I think).
Gudjohnson is a joke and when I heard they bought him I was shocked .. Sylvinho is a shitty player don't know why they bought him either.. A good thing though is that they've bought Pique back from Manchester United..
Ezquerro was for free but they shouldn't have bought him.. He is shit.. Albertini was too old when they bought him..
Henry is a good player but he underperforms for Barca.. Don't know why.. Maybe because they use him as Winger :S
Btw you forgot a huge name that's from the academy ..  MESSI |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 06-06-2008 17:14
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I was in Spain when Barcelona bought Eto'o and when I'm in Spain I buy the "Sport" newspaper (Spanish newspaper devoted to Barcelona) every day, and the news was all over there saying that Eto'o have signed from Real Madrid and Barcelona were going to pay in instalments over 5 years until the fee reached about £20million. However I believe they did give a little mention of Mallorca but not much because Real Madrid got 50% of the fee and owned 50% of Eto'o and they preferred to think of him as a Madrid player, so I did as well
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 06-06-2008 17:20
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Addy291 wrote:
I was in Spain when Barcelona bought Eto'o and when I'm in Spain I buy the "Sport" newspaper (Spanish newspaper devoted to Barcelona) every day, and the news was all over there saying that Eto'o have signed from Real Madrid and Barcelona were going to pay in instalments over 5 years until the fee reached about £20million. However I believe they did give a little mention of Mallorca but not much because Real Madrid got 50% of the fee and owned 50% of Eto'o and they preferred to think of him as a Madrid player, so I did as well
Well Eto'o is an old Real Madrid player .. But they bought him from Mallorca.. The media just loves to call him a former Real Madrid player because of the rivalry between the two clubs
The reason why Real Madrid got 50 % of the transfer fee was due to an agreement made between Mallorca and Real Madrid when Mallorca bought Eto'o from Real Madrid .. |
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| chuckie |
Posted on 06-06-2008 17:21
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Addy291 wrote:
But now they're selling them all.
Are they in financial trouble?
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 06-06-2008 17:23
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Ashton; I know about the agreement and the media didn't call him a fomer-Madrid player. They said that he was bought from Real Madrid. They said this because Madrid owned 50% of him and because of the rivalry they said Barcelona bought him from Real Madrid. It was like co-ownership in Italy. Both teams own 50% of the player but one team lets him play for the other. In essence, Barcelona bought him from both Madrid and Mallorca
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But now they're selling them all.
Are they in financial trouble?
No, they have huge profits each year. All the players want either more money or just a change, and Barcelona don't want to shell out more money to keep them because they're extremley tight when it comes to spending money.
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 06-06-2008 17:32
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They're selling all their profiles because they are "past their best" .. They've won everything in Barcelona and they haven't the "killer" instinct anymore..
Like Deco, Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Gudjohnson (has never been good - i'm happy that he'll probably leave),
Barcelona needs to build up a new team to win some titles again 
Barcelona had a huge debt (around 90 - 100 million £  ) before Juan Laporta became President for the club.. Now he turned their economy around and they have profit every year as Addy said.. Their economy is better than ever but they still have debt aroung 40 millon £ - anyway it isn't a problem as long as they make profit |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 07-06-2008 09:00
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Roque Santa Cruz is "at the centre of a Manchester tug of war". Santa Cruz has said that Man Utd are trying to sign him, and Mark Hughes has stated since he took over at Man City that he wants to bring Roque and David Bentley to City.
I think City have the advantageB)
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I worked it out and Cristiano Ronaldo won't get £300,000 a week wages if he joins Real It's actually only just under £290,000 a week (after tax).
Real will give him a 5 year contract worth £75million and they will also pay Man Utd £75million to buy Ronaldo.
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Hughes' first interview as Man City manager he stated the usual things like "Man City can be as big as Man Utd...". He also says that he loves the amount of cash he will be able to spend.
Also, if the club could sign Ronaldinho and he wanted to join, Hughes won't just sign him straight away, he will make sure he is right for the team before saying yes. I guess this is in light of the fact Ronaldinho never turned up to training at Barcelona, and Hughes won't stand for that.
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Posted on 07-06-2008 09:32
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Nope, he gets £300,000 post-tax. So in reality, he'll get paid a little more, then tax deducted to give him £300,000
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 07-06-2008 10:13
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Everywhere I've read (2/3 places) say it's £75million over 5years (£300,000), after tax
It even has "after tax" bolded where I've read it
Anyway it's around £300,000 which is stupid to say the least.
Edited by Addy291 on 07-06-2008 10:22
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 07-06-2008 12:50
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Well good news for me (and Barcelona supporters)
FC Barcelona have bought Daniel Alves from Sevilla and Mancini (the winger) from AS Roma
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 07-06-2008 13:12
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Barclona have bought a defender
Oh wait, Daniel Alves can't defend.
Edited by Addy291 on 07-06-2008 13:14
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 07-06-2008 14:24
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Addy291 wrote:
Barclona have bought a defender
Oh wait, Daniel Alves can't defend.
At least he can take the free kicks
In other news, Steve 'wolly with the brolly' McClaren has said he's interested in the vacant managers position at Blackburn Rovers |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 08-06-2008 16:14
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Man City expect to complete the transfer of Jo within the next 7 days. He will sign for around £20million
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Barcelona have accepted Man City's offer for Ronaldinho, now all they need to do is agree personal terms and, the thing I think Ronaldinho will be let down on, pass a medical.
Manchester City negotiators are flying into Rio De Janeiro to discuss personal terms with Ronaldinho, after Barcelona have given Man City the go-ahead to speak to the Brazilian maestro, according to City executive chairman Garry Cook.
He met with Kia Joorabchian yesterday, along with Mark Hughes, to work out the details of the deal that will make Ronaldinho the highest paid player in English football.
Cook has said that he has used his contacts with giant sportswear firm Nike to oil the negotiations.
"Ronaldinho has an interest in coming to City, but it's a competitive landscape. There are a lot of people involved in discussions. But I'd love to see him here and so would the fans" Cook said,
"That's who we are trying to serve, they want to see him here. It will fill out the stadium and there would be nothing greater than to see Ronaldinho versus Ronaldo.
"What a wonderful thing for British football. There's still a long way to go yet, but he's intimated he's interested.
"It would be fair to say I've used some resources that I'm aware of in the past to work on that programme.
"There's been a lot of speculation on the money involved, but there's a mechanism that's used in any negotiation.
"The model of signing big players is very different today around how they are marketable, what they do and what their opportunities are globally."
He certainly sounds very confident that they can persuade Ronaldinho to come to Manchester, and the fact that he will have his fellow countrymen Elano and Jo around probably helped.
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 08-06-2008 16:31
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I still love Ronaldinho .. He was they key of Barcelona's succes .. He just got stuck in Barca .. No matter what I'll always support Ronaldinho that being said .. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH HIM MOVING TO MAN CITY !!
If he agrees personal terms with them..
EDIT: C.Ronaldo has changed his mind about moving to Real Madrid .. He says that nothing has been decided yet and opens the possibility of him staying in Man Utd..
Chelsea gave AC milan permission to talk with Drogba.. Now they have to talk personal terms with drogba..
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 08-06-2008 16:34
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The problem with Ronaldinho is his attitude. He thinks he's better than everyone else and because he was 2-time "World Player of the Year" that he can do whatever he likes. Last season at Barcelona he never went to training, and sometimes when he was out "injured" it was actually just because he was so unfit due to not training.
The only hope he has of returning somewhat to his previous self is if Hughes can scare the shit out of him, and make him go to training. Although the new wages he'll be getting won't help.
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Posted on 08-06-2008 16:40
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Well I hope he'll find some of his old form again .. But he'll never be as good as he was 2-3 years ago.. He WAS the best player in the world.. No one was in his league but that's not the case anymore.. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 09-06-2008 12:33
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Inter Milan's manager has said Viera can leave. Harry Redknapp responded by imediately placing a £4million bid
Luke McCormick has been bailed after killing 2 people in a car crash on the M6. He'll go back to court 7 days later.
Real Madrid have asked Cristiano Ronaldo to put in a transfer request to help the process. Ronaldo's brother has also said that he will definately go to Madrid. But Giovani dos Santos' dad also said Giovani was going to Man City
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| Ashton89 |
Posted on 09-06-2008 13:19
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Well Ronaldo said that he doesn't know what he'll do yet ..
I think he'll move though  But I hope that he'll stay in Manchester United
Patrick Viera in Portsmouth would be a great signing for them |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 09-06-2008 13:35
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Let him be benched for a year and then let him move to Real Madrid. That's the best solution to this |
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