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| greatmikey |
Posted on 18-09-2012 10:30
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rabobank confirmed bobridge on there website https://www.rabosp...item/23265 |
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 18-09-2012 12:47
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Can't believe that Bobridge has gone to Rabobank, they must have some big plans for the future  |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-09-2012 12:56
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Well that sucks. Orica really aren't filling me with confidence about wanting to be a more interesting team than just sprinters.
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Posted on 27-11-2024 18:49
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-09-2012 12:58
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Well they still have Albasini, Gerrans, Meyer...next to 20 sprinters.  |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:03
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Gerrans got some great results this season, don't know if he can repeat that, though. And sprinters don't bring in that much UCI Points. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:19
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Very good signing for Rabobank.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:20
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Ian Butler wrote:
Gerrans got some great results this season, don't know if he can repeat that, though. And sprinters don't bring in that much UCI Points.
They do bring a lot of points. Of course, they have to be good sprinters, and most sprinters at OGE are just 3rd tier sprinters, but still they're 6th in the team rankings.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:23
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Ian Butler wrote:
Gerrans got some great results this season, don't know if he can repeat that, though. And sprinters don't bring in that much UCI Points.
Yeah this will be Gerrans' best season ever. Got lucky at MSR and a lot of the usual classics riders weren't on form.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:26
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Good signing on paper for Rabo, but I'm not really sure how much he does for them. I mean, he hasn't scored for Orica this year, and last year all he had was two good Aussie Champion rides, a 5th at the ITT World Champs, and 2nd at the Jayco Herald Sun Tour. I think he won Polonge a couple years back...which would be his only notable victory.
He's helpful from a GT standpoint, but doesn't really change that much there. Rabo's main problem is in both classics and GT land they have a bunch of riders who were really promising at 22-24 who aren't panning out at 25-28, Gesink, Kruijswijk, Mollema, Breschel, Boom (who is strong, but rarely wins anything), and (before he left) Langeveld. I really don't see Bobridge helping with that. They kind of need to reload, quite in the same way as Lampre.
As for Orica, yeah, they need to sign someone capable of doing something in GC's. They tried to pass off their failure to sign one as them not "targeting one" last year, but this year they have no excuse. They've proved they've got real financial backing, and aren't going to pull a Pegasus. They should've been able to sign, say, Kreuziger. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:34
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Deadpool wrote:
As for Orica, yeah, they need to sign someone capable of doing something in GC's. They tried to pass off their failure to sign one as them not "targeting one" last year, but this year they have no excuse. They've proved they've got real financial backing, and aren't going to pull a Pegasus. They should've been able to sign, say, Kreuziger.
Agreed. At the moment they're an inverse Euskaltel, just more successful. But which GC rider would be interested in signing for a team which would provide him with pretty much no support? They should first offload quite a few of their sprinters/timetrialists.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:35
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Evans, Rogers or Porte would help GreenEdge for sure.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-09-2012 13:37
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kumazan wrote:
But which GC rider would be interested in signing for a team which would provide him with pretty much no support?
Porte. He did it with Saxo and hasn't exactly got leadership duties right now.
Evans and Rogers are too old, plus BMC was built around Evans so I think he will live out the rest of his career there.
I mean, he hasn't scored for Orica this year
He is concentrating on the road from now on. He rode track this year.
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| Csabi13 |
Posted on 18-09-2012 14:38
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Kreucziger sing saxo https://www.velona...irmed.aspx |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-09-2012 14:44
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I deleted your first post in order to give you a chance to read the thread before you posted what's already been posted before again. Missed that chance |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-09-2012 14:47
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CountArach wrote:
kumazan wrote:
But which GC rider would be interested in signing for a team which would provide him with pretty much no support?
Porte. He did it with Saxo and hasn't exactly got leadership duties right now.
Uhm, I'm still skeptical about Porte's GC capability, but I guess he could sign for Orica, yeah.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-09-2012 15:12
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kumazan wrote:
CountArach wrote:
kumazan wrote:
But which GC rider would be interested in signing for a team which would provide him with pretty much no support?
Porte. He did it with Saxo and hasn't exactly got leadership duties right now.
Uhm, I'm still skeptical about Porte's GC capability, but I guess he could sign for Orica, yeah.
Oh me too, absolutely, but of all the riders who would fit well with the team, who have shown some sort of stage racing ability (even if it is mostly in week-long races) AND wouldn't really be in a position to ask for much support, I think Porte fits the bill best.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 18-09-2012 15:44
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CountArach wrote:
He is concentrating on the road from now on. He rode track this year.
Didn't realize that, but even still, it isn't like they're signing a young Phil Anderson or anything...
CountArach wrote:
kumazan wrote:
CountArach wrote:
kumazan wrote:
But which GC rider would be interested in signing for a team which would provide him with pretty much no support?
Porte. He did it with Saxo and hasn't exactly got leadership duties right now.
Uhm, I'm still skeptical about Porte's GC capability, but I guess he could sign for Orica, yeah.
Oh me too, absolutely, but of all the riders who would fit well with the team, who have shown some sort of stage racing ability (even if it is mostly in week-long races) AND wouldn't really be in a position to ask for much support, I think Porte fits the bill best.
It would be interesting to see Porte in a leadership role. I'm with kumazan, they're something about his riding style that just doesn't translate to high level GC results in my head. At the moment, he's kind of a poor man's Wiggo. Very good climber, very good TTer, but not exceptional at either, and also doesn't have the explosiveness or savvy to gain time when his legs themselves can't separate himself from the pack. With the right team behind him, I could see him podiuming in a GT, like Bobby Julich. Can't see him winning many stage races, GT or otherwise, outright though.
EDIT: By the way, Bobby Julich and Phil Anderson. When did it become 1994?
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| greatmikey |
Posted on 18-09-2012 15:46
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porte is good at timetrialing and mountains but i dont think he could keep up with the contador, froome and wiggins and he wouldnt have a team to help him in grand tours |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 18-09-2012 15:55
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Deadpool wrote:
CountArach wrote:
He is concentrating on the road from now on. He rode track this year.
Didn't realize that, but even still, it isn't like they're signing a young Phil Anderson or anything...
It just occurred to me that the only reason he isn't the current Australian TT champion (or at least didn't medal in the race) is because he crashed out of the TT due to a truck driving the opposite direction and buffeting him with wind.
Deadpool wrote:
It would be interesting to see Porte in a leadership role. I'm with kumazan, they're something about his riding style that just doesn't translate to high level GC results in my head. At the moment, he's kind of a poor man's Wiggo. Very good climber, very good TTer, but not exceptional at either, and also doesn't have the explosiveness or savvy to gain time when his legs themselves can't separate himself from the pack. With the right team behind him, I could see him podiuming in a GT, like Bobby Julich style. Can't see him winning many stage races, GT or otherwise, outright though.
I agree, that's pretty much what I think about him but I don't see any reason that he couldn't have a crack at the Dauphine or Paris-Nice at some point, particularly on a TT-heavy course. Not to mention Romandie, which is well within his ability to win. The climbs at those races would suit him more than Italian or Spanish races and they also tend to include rather more TT kms. I don't see him particularly going anywhere in a GT and if he did it would be a rather anonymous top 5.
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| alex valceanu |
Posted on 18-09-2012 18:00
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OMG ! Dombrovski and JTL confirmed at............guess . Sky!
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