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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 12:51
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hellboy wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
hellboy wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
You use football as an example? Football, a team invasion game vs cycling, a mass endurance sport. Seriously, you're just making yourself appear more idiotic with every post you ever write. But hey, don't let that stop you from posting, it does provide me with occasional amusement.
I think it is you who performs like a pussy here 
That was uncalled for.
and mostly childish. rjc made a valid backed-up point (even if he did make it in a somewhat dick-ish manner  ) and you're response is that he's a pussy
okay,let him be arrogant and vulgar, i forgot he is cycling expert,so he can still charge someone who is not so good in his eyes (that is childisch).I only say be tolerant please
He only called you an idiot, here thats not vulgar at all, probably one of the most common words.
However a reaction from you makes it worse. Next time, just ignore it, it may anoy you, but it's the best way to go. 
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| Crommy |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:02
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kumazan wrote:
Lol, you say this as if doping wasn't institutionalised too in the West.
I'm fairly sure it wasn't. And most certainly not on the national scale of the former Soviet Eastern Europe.
the place of birth doesn't make you a doper or a clean rider depending on were you born.
It can certainly have a great effect. Where you're brought up and how you're brought up will affect your attitudes towards doping. And if the coaches are still around who still think it's ok, then...
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| hellboy |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:10
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doddy13 wrote:
hellboy wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
hellboy wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
You use football as an example? Football, a team invasion game vs cycling, a mass endurance sport. Seriously, you're just making yourself appear more idiotic with every post you ever write. But hey, don't let that stop you from posting, it does provide me with occasional amusement.
I think it is you who performs like a pussy here
That was uncalled for.
and mostly childish. rjc made a valid backed-up point (even if he did make it in a somewhat dick-ish manner ) and you're response is that he's a pussy
okay,let him be arrogant and vulgar, i forgot he is cycling expert,so he can still charge someone who is not so good in his eyes (that is childisch).I only say be tolerant please
He only called you an idiot, here thats not vulgar at all, probably one of the most common words.
However a reaction from you makes it worse. Next time, just ignore it, it may anoy you, but it's the best way to go.
He called someone else idiot,not me (so far), so i only stood up for someone,but you are right, i will ignore it next time
Go Roman!
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| Deda |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:14
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doddy13 wrote:
hellboy wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
hellboy wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
You use football as an example? Football, a team invasion game vs cycling, a mass endurance sport. Seriously, you're just making yourself appear more idiotic with every post you ever write. But hey, don't let that stop you from posting, it does provide me with occasional amusement.
I think it is you who performs like a pussy here
That was uncalled for.
and mostly childish. rjc made a valid backed-up point (even if he did make it in a somewhat dick-ish manner ) and you're response is that he's a pussy
okay,let him be arrogant and vulgar, i forgot he is cycling expert,so he can still charge someone who is not so good in his eyes (that is childisch).I only say be tolerant please
He only called you an idiot, here thats not vulgar at all, probably one of the most common words.
However a reaction from you makes it worse. Next time, just ignore it, it may anoy you, but it's the best way to go.
He actually called me an idiot, not him. 
Not that it makes any difference.. Last time I checked, making stupid comments is not treated as an early sign of any known mental condition.
On the other hand, being a dick is just not very nice
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| hellboy |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:14
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Crommy wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Lol, you say this as if doping wasn't institutionalised too in the West.
I'm fairly sure it wasn't. And most certainly not on the national scale of the former Soviet Eastern Europe.
the place of birth doesn't make you a doper or a clean rider depending on were you born.
It can certainly have a great effect. Where you're brought up and how you're brought up will affect your attitudes towards doping. And if the coaches are still around who still think it's ok, then...
I agrre with Crommy that it is very important where the rider grows up and i am proud to say that in Czech Republic and in Slovakia there is minimal amount od doping cases in last ten years (except some weed and cocaine cases )
Go Roman!
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:23
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Deda wrote:
Not that it makes any difference.. Last time I checked, making stupid comments is not treated as an early sign of any known mental condition.
On the other hand, being a dick is just not very nice
That made me laugh.
Oh, and it's true.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:33
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Crommy wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Lol, you say this as if doping wasn't institutionalised too in the West.
I'm fairly sure it wasn't. And most certainly not on the national scale of the former Soviet Eastern Europe.
the place of birth doesn't make you a doper or a clean rider depending on were you born.
It can certainly have a great effect. Where you're brought up and how you're brought up will affect your attitudes towards doping. And if the coaches are still around who still think it's ok, then...
I'm talking by memory, but if I remeber correctly, at least Italy, Finland and the USA had an institutionalised doping program. Maybe West Germany too, but I'm not sure right now. Anyhow, odds that most athletes o both sides were doped are high.
Regerding the effect of the birth place, well, most of the Soviet rainers were hired by Western European and north American federations to 'train' their athletes. Doping is now pretty much an international problem, so the odds of a Russian or a Spaniard being a doper, while still being higher than those of a French, for instance, aren't too different than those of a citizen of any other country. Just look at the impressive improvement of cycling in the anglo-saxon countries in the last years. I'm pretty sure they weren't 'controlled' by the USSR, were they? |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 13:41
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Sagan is a sprinter who can climb, and now that Bettini and Freire are essentially gone there is room for a rider like that too win a lot of stages, also the fact that he seems to have been riding well for most of the season is a point in his favour.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 22-05-2010 14:57
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kumazan wrote:
Crommy wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Lol, you say this as if doping wasn't institutionalised too in the West.
I'm fairly sure it wasn't. And most certainly not on the national scale of the former Soviet Eastern Europe.
the place of birth doesn't make you a doper or a clean rider depending on were you born.
It can certainly have a great effect. Where you're brought up and how you're brought up will affect your attitudes towards doping. And if the coaches are still around who still think it's ok, then...
I'm talking by memory, but if I remeber correctly, at least Italy, Finland and the USA had an institutionalised doping program. Maybe West Germany too, but I'm not sure right now. Anyhow, odds that most athletes o both sides were doped are high.
Regerding the effect of the birth place, well, most of the Soviet rainers were hired by Western European and north American federations to 'train' their athletes. Doping is now pretty much an international problem, so the odds of a Russian or a Spaniard being a doper, while still being higher than those of a French, for instance, aren't too different than those of a citizen of any other country. Just look at the impressive improvement of cycling in the anglo-saxon countries in the last years. I'm pretty sure they weren't 'controlled' by the USSR, were they?
i think the original point, not made by you, was that he wasn't doped because he wasn't spanish or italian, not that he was doped because he was a slovak
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| Wilier |
Posted on 22-05-2010 16:40
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Circuit de Lorraine, stage 3
1. Fabio Felline (Footon - Servetto) ITA
2. Daniele Colli (Ceramica Flaminia - Bossini Docce) ITA
3. Yauheni Hutarovich (Française des Jeux) BLR
4. Luca Paolini (Acqua & Sapone - D'Angelo & Antenucci) ITA
5. Cyril Gautier (Bbox - Bouygues Telecom) FRA
6. Mitchell Docker (Skil - Shimano) AUS
7. Kristof Goddaert (Ag2r - La Mondiale) BEL
8. Jean-Luc Delpech (Bretagne - Schuller) FRA
9. Lloyd Mondory (Ag2r - La Mondiale) FRA
10. Freddy Bichot (Bbox - Bouygues Telecom) FRA
And Vermeltfoort just made it 2vs2 against Phinney(counting in sprints) in Olympia's Tour. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 22-05-2010 16:57
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
i think the original point, not made by you, was that he wasn't doped because he wasn't spanish or italian, not that he was doped because he was a slovak
I know that, and both points are equally stupid. |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 22-05-2010 17:13
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Yeah! Victory for Pierre Rolland on the 4th stage of Circuit de Lorraine
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 22-05-2010 17:20
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1 FRA ROLLAND Pierre BTL 3:58:53 0:00:00
2 FRA ROUX Antony FDJ 3:59:11 0:00:18
3 ITA COLLI Daniele FLM 3:59:11 0:00:18
4 ITA PAOLINI Luca ASA 3:59:11 0:00:18
5 BEL COMMEYNE Davy LAN 3:59:11 0:00:18
6 ITA CARRARA Matteo VAC 3:59:11 0:00:18
7 FRA VICHOT Arthur FDJ 3:59:11 0:00:18
8 ITA CANNONE Donato FLM 3:59:11 0:00:18
9 BEL ADAMS Joeri RB3 3:59:11 0:00:18
10 FRA PINEAU Cedric RLM 3:59:11 0:00:18
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 21:50
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So Cance has not even bothered to set a good time for the time trial, thanks for coming.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 21:52
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Thanks for the reminder
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 22:36
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Hunter is winning, nah nah na na nah
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 22-05-2010 22:59
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Hunters time was funked up by the officials.
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| evilhumer |
Posted on 22-05-2010 23:00
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I belive Hunters time was wrong |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 23:05
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quiet, let me enjoy my moment.
Anyway he beat Cancelarra, so he did pretty well.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 22-05-2010 23:18
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Ahh. Paul Sherwen was talking about Brajkovic and how he once was a former national TT champion, when he was clearly in different colors from the regular Shack jersey.
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