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Vuelta á España 2014
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| Shonak |
Posted on 11-09-2014 16:47
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Three winners today:
Aru for the stage
Froome for distancing Valverde
Contador for not loosing much time and saving a lot of energy
Contador one of the winners?He lost 20 seconds to Froome in total and the gap is down to 1:19.In the flat ITT Froome will gain 20-25 seconds and if Conta cracks or Froome goes to full retard mode at Ancares Conta will lose the Vuelta
20-25 seconds... in a 10 KM TT?!
Ancares will be brutal between Froome & Bertie. Go Bertie Go! 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-09-2014 16:52
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Bah, Contador was on his limit. Everyone knows Contador, if he is feeling well, he is either following or attacking. He is not at Valverde's wheel and losing 20 (?) seconds. Thats a fact.
I just once again have to point how how horribly this Katusha team is managed. Losada and Kozenthuck of all people are attacking, while Moreno and Caruso once again are derping around. How about for once try to put those 2 guys up front, keep it close and let Rodriguez close it out in the last kilometres. I simply dont get how such a good team can be that horribly managed. 
Edited by Riis123 on 11-09-2014 16:53
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 11-09-2014 16:52
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Good display from Froomey today but i don't think he will reel in Contador before sunday  |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-09-2014 16:55
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dark_x2012 wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Three winners today:
Aru for the stage
Froome for distancing Valverde
Contador for not loosing much time and saving a lot of energy
Contador one of the winners?He lost 20 seconds to Froome in total and the gap is down to 1:19.In the flat ITT Froome will gain 20-25 seconds and if Conta cracks at Ancares he will lose the Vuelta
Say what 20-25 secs. In Dauphine he lost less than 10 on a harder TT than this one. And it was obvious that Contador was taking it easy today.  I might be wrong but I can't see Bertie cracking if he stays onhis wheels.
To be fair though, the better the harder for Contador. That was blatantly obvious in 2013 when Froome destroyed him on the flat and Contador almost won in the hard TT. 
With that being said, I can't see Contador losing this one as Froome has to gain at least a minute. Guess we will have a Annecy Semnoz-repeat of 2013, still the best climb I have watched to date. In terms of attacking from the bottom, that is.
Edited by Riis123 on 11-09-2014 16:57
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| CountArach |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:00
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Riis123 wrote:
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Let's all take a nap until Valverde sprints for the stage win and bonus seconds.
Why do organisers insist on putting these bonus seconds on hilly or mountainous stages?
Yeah, sure. Keep that hate on, you are doing great!
Huh? I think it is a perfectly legitimate rules complaint. Or do you mean me complaining about the way that Valverde rides? Because that is what he does and no one can say it is exciting...
Edited by CountArach on 11-09-2014 17:00
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:04
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Nerz having once again a pretty good Vuelta showing that he is probably the best German GT racer right now.
He said in an interview some days/weeks ago that he thinks he is able to get a top10 eventually but therefore he would need to be the team leader from the beginning.
With Sanchez and Evans ageing he could get more chances on his own in future I guess. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:09
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CountArach wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
CountArach wrote:
Let's all take a nap until Valverde sprints for the stage win and bonus seconds.
Why do organisers insist on putting these bonus seconds on hilly or mountainous stages?
Yeah, sure. Keep that hate on, you are doing great!
Huh? I think it is a perfectly legitimate rules complaint. Or do you mean me complaining about the way that Valverde rides? Because that is what he does and no one can say it is exciting...
I was referring to the Valverde-comment as that exact comment is getting dropped 3-4 in average every day. Its just getting old man. To put it into perspective: Are people in here generally bothered by Sagan wheelsucking and winning sprints in hilly stages, or are they generally bothered when he attacks either on the climb or the downhill? The ladder, right - which is what Valverde exactly is doing - playing to his strength. It would be stupid of me to claim that Valverde is a aggressive rider, but on the other hand, he doesn't have to. And it is exactly as stupid to claim that he should be the one attacking (which you haven't done, I know). And by the way, Valverde as actually been rather aggressive on mountains stages this year, (as in attacking waaay out fx. at Chamrousse and the incredibly steep stage where he payed this price.
I like the bonus seconds and was sad when they removed it from the Tour. I see the reasoning for deleting them, but the positives outweighs them in my opinion. The first week is better in my opinion and the reason for catching the break on mountains stages is much greater when you have the strongest climber. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:26
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Aru..Aru..Aru..he's just special. I mean what he's doing at his age blow Nibali results out of water when he was same age. Special talent this one.
And always reminds me of Dombrowski..How Joe destroyed Aru in his home race at Giro Bio on Gavia..Shame abouy his knee issues ;/
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:30
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Oh man, Gesink really can't catch a break.
Considering what was happening back home, his performances in the Vuelta so far are even more impressive.
Hopefully his wife and kid will be all right in the end.
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| ruben |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:41
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Really unbelievable.. how can 1 person have so much bad luck both physically and mentally... Will always wonder what his career would look like without that |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 11-09-2014 17:56
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Aru demonstrated once again that he is tactically amazing. |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:04
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Shonak wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Three winners today:
Aru for the stage
Froome for distancing Valverde
Contador for not loosing much time and saving a lot of energy
Contador one of the winners?He lost 20 seconds to Froome in total and the gap is down to 1:19.In the flat ITT Froome will gain 20-25 seconds and if Conta cracks or Froome goes to full retard mode at Ancares Conta will lose the Vuelta
20-25 seconds... in a 10 KM TT?!
Ancares will be brutal between Froome & Bertie. Go Bertie Go!
I am also a fan of Contador and I hate Froome but I fear that Froome is going to win it.Bu as you said Go Bertie Go!
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Gracias Alberto.
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:06
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ruben wrote:
Really unbelievable.. how can 1 person have so much bad luck both physically and mentally... Will always wonder what his career would look like without that
Yeah true,poor Gesink
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Gracias Alberto.
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| silent_control |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:15
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The Schleck Fan wrote:
Shonak wrote:
The Schleck Fan wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Three winners today:
Aru for the stage
Froome for distancing Valverde
Contador for not loosing much time and saving a lot of energy
Contador one of the winners?He lost 20 seconds to Froome in total and the gap is down to 1:19.In the flat ITT Froome will gain 20-25 seconds and if Conta cracks or Froome goes to full retard mode at Ancares Conta will lose the Vuelta
20-25 seconds... in a 10 KM TT?!
Ancares will be brutal between Froome & Bertie. Go Bertie Go!
I am also a fan of Contador and I hate Froome but I fear that Froome is going to win it.Bu as you said Go Bertie Go!
Froome won't win the Vuelta, but I hope that he wins the penultimate stage. |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:37
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silent_control wrote:
Froome won't win the Vuelta, but I hope that he wins the penultimate stage.
1'20" is nothing if you know that a pentultimate stage is coming, as well as an ITT after it and you have Froome on one side. It will be close.
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| kubys |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:45
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admirschleck wrote:
silent_control wrote:
Froome won't win the Vuelta, but I hope that he wins the penultimate stage.
1'20" is nothing if you know that a pentultimate stage is coming, as well as an ITT after it and you have Froome on one side. It will be close.
Man, it's not even 10k's ITT, so Contador must be mostly worried only about stage 20.
Die hard fan of Tom Boonen and Quickstep since 2004.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:52
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“I think Saturday’s stage [at Ancares, the Vuelta’s eight summit finishes – ed.] is very different to today’s. It’s one which is more suited to me because it’s about straightforward physical condition and I hope these 20 seconds I’ve lost [including time bonuses] won’t be a problem. Ancares is a high mountain stage, more one like the Giro or Tour.”
Asked by Spanish tv reporter why he had not followed Froome rather than Valverde, he argued “because you don’t know how Froome will race on a climb as explosive as today’s.
“Sometimes he’s had a problem with changes of pace. He had just attacked before and I was catching my breath when he went again. I thought I’d go with Alejandro because he was defending his second place overall. I thought he had more responsibility [to work] than me.
https://www.cyclin...n-saturday
Makes sense, although Froome is by now (arguably) in peak form and has got his kick back already as shown on sunday and monday where he sustained both attacks. Aru held up fine with Froome by the way and outsprinted him eventually, I doubt Contador hadn't been able to follow Froome, especially since he followed multiple attacks earlier and later on. Maybe he felt too confident. Maybe the recent spanish feud plays a role too, who knows.
Still, time loss could and should have been avoided. Not well played on Bertie's side. This will make however anticipation for saturday only bigger.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Shonak |
Posted on 11-09-2014 18:56
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silent_control wrote:
Froome won't win the Vuelta, but I hope that he wins the penultimate stage.
I'm with you here. After his injuries at Tour and his Vuelta performance here, a stage win would be well deserved for Froome and is in fact, high time. Especially since SKY still lack a stage win at a GT this year.
Tourmalet 2.0 with Froome replacing Andy? Yes please.
Edited by Shonak on 11-09-2014 18:57
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| matt17br |
Posted on 11-09-2014 19:13
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Shonak wrote:
silent_control wrote:
Froome won't win the Vuelta, but I hope that he wins the penultimate stage.
I'm with you here. After his injuries at Tour and his Vuelta performance here, a stage win would be well deserved for Froome and is in fact, high time. Especially since SKY still lack a stage win at a GT this year.
Tourmalet 2.0 with Froome replacing Andy? Yes please.
I liked Froome today, it was the first time ever. Mainly because he basically helped Aru to gain seconds and win the stage |
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| Smoku |
Posted on 11-09-2014 19:33
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This is getting more and more entertaining. Where's my popcorn? |
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