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SotD
Still WAAAY to early to say anything. Menchov is still in the run, and his TT is as good as Contador's... Di Luca and Ricco is faster in a sprint, so they can possibly get bonus seconds aswell, I wouldn't claim anything at all yet. Still 5-6 riders in this race who can win...
 
wackojackohighcliffe
A_Schleck wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
penultimate stage schleck

and sorry about my sella mistake


Yeah the individual time trial right? That's exactly what my point was. Ricco, Di Luca and Simoni (or Menchov and Bruseghin for that matter) can't gain enough time on Contador before the penultimate stage, wher he will most likely take a lot of time on each and everyone of them (maybe not on Bruseghin, but he looks to be the weakest climber of the favourites right now).


no, tt is last stage, penultimate stage takes in gavia, mortirolo and I think another climb. A real chance for the climbers to do some damage.
 
niconico
SotD wrote:
Still WAAAY to early to say anything. Menchov is still in the run, and his TT is as good as Contador's... Di Luca and Ricco is faster in a sprint, so they can possibly get bonus seconds aswell, I wouldn't claim anything at all yet. Still 5-6 riders in this race who can win...


I just can't see how those 5 or 6 riders can get rid of Contador enough to feel secure before the final stage.

@ wackojacko: You mean this one then:

www.feltet.dk/mediearkiv/Image/Billeder/2008/Lob/Giro_d_Italia/20.jpg

Well with not having a mountain top finish and with the steepest and decisive climb topping 50 kilometres from the finish I don't see the Italians gaining anything at all on Contador, maybe some boni seconds, but the tendency so far is that a breakaway takes those.
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SotD
Well all it takes is one off-day... If Contador takes a stage like Klöden today then he's gone...
 
CrueTrue
I didn't get to watch the last mountain, but I can say as much as I will hate watching Contador in pink tomorrow :x
 
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niconico
SotD wrote:
Well all it takes is one off-day... If Contador takes a stage like Klöden today then he's gone...


Yup but that goes for Ricco, Di Luca and Simoni too, and even more for them as they're poor time trialists.

Point being, I'm 98% sure Contador will win this Giro, but I'll get seriously owned in here if he doesn't. Pfft
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Stijn_vranken
CrueTrue wrote:
I didn't get to watch the last mountain, but I can say as much as I will hate watching Contador in pink tomorrow :x


you can at least watch ,while i have to study :x:x:x:x
Edited by Stijn_vranken on 25-05-2008 17:33
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pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around

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wackojackohighcliffe
A_Schleck wrote:
@ wackojacko: You mean this one then:

www.feltet.dk/mediearkiv/Image/Billeder/2008/Lob/Giro_d_Italia/20.jpg

Well with not having a mountain top finish and with the steepest and decisive climb topping 50 kilometres from the finish I don't see the Italians gaining anything at all on Contador, maybe some boni seconds, but the tendency so far is that a breakaway takes those.


yeah

i don't know but surely a ricco or someone like that will go on the mortirolo - unless they have a significant gap already
 
samtheman
Well, Contador was dropped today with 50 km to go on such a mountain, so it would be worth a try. What do you think of Pozzovivo? He really impressed today and was strong already yesterday. Pity he's already 4 mins behind...
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niconico
samtheman wrote:
Well, Contador was dropped today with 50 km to go on such a mountain, so it would be worth a try. What do you think of Pozzovivo? He really impressed today and was strong already yesterday. Pity he's already 4 mins behind...


I was wondering if we were going to see anything to Pozzovivo, as I have never really seen him ride real life (mostly my knowledge of him is PCM based Pfft), so it was very nice to see him ride away from all the favourites today. Surely he could win the Giro in years to come. This year he could be in for a shout on one of the next mountain stages.
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Immortal
You know what the good thing about teams like CSF Group Navigare is? Wink
They are so incredibly obviously doped that they make all the other teams look like they are clean. Grin (yeah, right... Sad )

Does this forum have a seperate "official" doping thread or something? Judging by all the talk in here it certainly looks like if it needs one... that way these threads might actually be about discussing who`s winning and not who`s doped or not. Wink
 
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SotD
It's definately hard to find a topic about doping. On the first page i find 3 topics about doping...
 
issoisso
SotD wrote:
Well all it takes is one off-day... If Contador takes a stage like Klöden today then he's gone...


this wasn't "a stage" by Kloden. this is the level he's really at.

And if anyone is looking for a reason, his statements very strongly hint at something
 
Aquarius
"Bastards, give me my dope back !" or something like that Pfft
 
issoisso
jokes aside, he's been insisting pretty heavily that he's too afraid of "a false positive. being tested positive despite being clean".

He also says the UCI is clearly after him, because he's been tested 22 times this year.

keep in mind the UCI estimated the number of tests on a rider on "the list" (the one with the top50 riders in the world, who therefore are subject to more testing) on 3-5 per rider per year. he's been tested 22 times, so I'd say he's right, the UCI is desperately trying to nab him for the smallest thing.

22 times and it's not even June yet Shock

And he's exhibiting the common trait of someone clean: typical performance in a time trial, crap on the climbs. He's climbing like crap despite the fact that he has much more powerful legs than any other rider on this Giro and that he weighs almost the same as the top GC contenders.
Edited by issoisso on 25-05-2008 19:01
 
CrueTrue
I have a feeling that a lot of people here wants a seperate doping thread, so maybe we should start one and place this talk there Wink
 
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issoisso
it's probably a good idea
 
Crommy
A doping thread is pointless, because all the talks about doping are spontaneous. Everyone will simply ignore the doping thread, and carry on in other threads
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Guido Mukk
yep it is pointless..but those doping issues on cycling thread isnt something bad...at least I'm getting every time something new from there..well done isso,rjc_43 and Aquarius always very educative to read. Dont hold back
 
Osmose
i like to assume that every rider is clean, but at today's stage navigare made me remember a lot of la/mss, because on the final climb they were with 5 riders between the topCG riders

sella was on the longest breakaways and still gain time to fresh riders
baliani is riding madly on the last stages
the first time you heard cuapio, he finishs quite well
priamo abandon after a stage win, giving a lame excuse
pozzovivo has been riding "normally"

for a continental team, not badRolling Eyes
Edited by Osmose on 25-05-2008 19:29
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