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Cameron Meyer --> Pegasus

 
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evilhumer
Deignan to Radioshack
 
lagetcher
Napolitano ---> Acqua Sapone

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FreitasPCM
Nelson Oliveira --> The Shack
Gatis Smukulis --> HTC
 
issoisso
Step 1: The Hog says he'll never sign another portuguese rider again
Step 2: The Hog signs Cardoso
Step 3: The Hog signs Oliveira


Then again The Hog has never actually had any credibility.....ever.
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olabj
issoisso wrote:
Step 1: The Hog says he'll never sign another portuguese rider again


When/why did he say that. And then why is Paulinho in the squad
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itsmichael
olabj wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Step 1: The Hog says he'll never sign another portuguese rider again


When/why did he say that. And then why is Paulinho in the squad


and what about Azevedo? he rode years for them
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issoisso
olabj wrote:
When/why did he say that.


When three Liberty Seguros riders tested positive. About two days after they'd signed Machado.

olabj wrote:
And then why is Paulinho in the squad


Because Paulinho was signed far before that.


itsmichael wrote:
olabj wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Step 1: The Hog says he'll never sign another portuguese rider again


When/why did he say that. And then why is Paulinho in the squad


and what about Azevedo? he rode years for them


See above
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CrueTrue
Bjarne Riis says that he's done signing 'top riders'.

So no Michael Rogers and Monfort, I guess.
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olabj
CrueTrue wrote:
Bjarne Riis says that he's done signing 'top riders'.

So no Michael Rogers and Monfort, I guess.


Top riders.. and then you say Rogers and Monfort.Pfft. On a more serious note, if Conta gets banned Saxo is really down with a broken back, but as I said in the News thread.. Rasmussen??
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CrueTrue
If Nuyens is a top rider - which Riis kinda indicated - so is Monfort and Rogers Wink
 
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FreitasPCM
Now Oliveira says he hasn't signed yet with Radio Shack. He says he's in negotiations with them and with Team Letzeburg or whatever the name is.
 
depappie
all those race wins, all that money, team leader, under contract for another 12 months, poor Cavendish i really feel sorry for him Rolling Eyes
 
rjc_43
"all that money"

I doubt, in comparison, it would BE all that money. For the amount of high quality wins Cav supplies, he's probably getting quite dicked on.

That's not saying I agree with the quantity of money cyclists at that level get though, because it's probably quite ludicrous.
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issoisso
rjc_43 wrote:
"all that money"

I doubt, in comparison, it would BE all that money. For the amount of high quality wins Cav supplies, he's probably getting quite dicked on.

That's not saying I agree with the quantity of money cyclists at that level get though, because it's probably quite ludicrous.


Depends on last year's extension.

If it was a renewal, he'll be on his 2009 wages, which are likely waaaaaaay too low. If it was a negotiable extension (I doubt it), he's probably overpaid for this year's production.

Either way, he'll get a very nice payoff soon.
Criticizing the team in public, though? Very unprofessional.

EDIT: Unless it's the media making crap up. Which is a possibility.
Edited by issoisso on 11-10-2010 23:03
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rjc_43
issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
"all that money"

I doubt, in comparison, it would BE all that money. For the amount of high quality wins Cav supplies, he's probably getting quite dicked on.

That's not saying I agree with the quantity of money cyclists at that level get though, because it's probably quite ludicrous.


Depends on last year's extension.

If it was a renewal, he'll be on his 2009 wages, which are likely waaaaaaay too low. If it was a negotiable extension (I doubt it), he's probably overpaid for this year's production.

Either way, he'll get a very nice payoff soon.
Criticizing the team in public, though? Very unprofessional.

EDIT: Unless it's the media making crap up. Which is a possibility.


It is, and they often do. It IS the media, afterall.

However, we do know things he's said before, and everything people say have some truth/feeling behind them. Always.

Anyway, what I was going to say, was something about me thinking Greipel is quite a nicer keeper-of-opinions-to-himself (going on a Tour of Britain interview I've just watched), whereas Cav isn't. He appears (no thanks to media, I'm sure) as a twat some times.

But I still loves him, so I do.

He's the same height as me.
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issoisso
rjc_43 wrote:
It is, and they often do. It IS the media, afterall.


It's also not unheard of for riders to say they never said that, only for reporters to produce an audio tape of them saying just what was quoted.

I should point out that the media, although pretty bad, aren't generally as bad as you're used to. English media tend to be worse than most (as evidenced by studies that show that it's the european country where the local population, on average, gives the papers the least credibility)

rjc_43 wrote:
However, we do know things he's said before, and everything people say have some truth/feeling behind them. Always.


But I've never read/heard him say anything of this sort before.

rjc_43 wrote:
Anyway, what I was going to say, was something about me thinking Greipel is quite a nicer keeper-of-opinions-to-himself (going on a Tour of Britain interview I've just watched), whereas Cav isn't. He appears (no thanks to media, I'm sure) as a twat some times.


Remember San Remo this year? Greipel wasted a perfectly good opportunity to shut up.

rjc_43 wrote:
But I still loves him, so I do.

He's the same height as me.


I thought you said you were 1,69m? (I remember cause we discussed how it's the same as Rodríguez Pfft ).
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SportingNonsense
Wouldnt surprise me if they are exactly Cav's words, wouldnt surprise me if theyre exaggerated in some way.

At the end of the day, HTC have to react with a higher contract offer - Im assuming Cavendish must give them quite a bit of pulling power in terms of attracting sponsors.
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rjc_43
issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
It is, and they often do. It IS the media, afterall.


It's also not unheard of for riders to say they never said that, only for reporters to produce an audio tape of them saying just what was quoted.

I should point out that the media, although pretty bad, aren't generally as bad as you're used to. English media tend to be worse than most (as evidenced by studies that show that it's the european country where the local population, on average, gives the papers the least credibility)


True, many people say things, then deny.

Can we really can cyclingnews English... do we have to?

issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
However, we do know things he's said before, and everything people say have some truth/feeling behind them. Always.


But I've never read/heard him say anything of this sort before.


He may not have said anything like this before, but my point was... if he now goes and denies it, there is always some truth in what was first said - if it was actually said.

issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
Anyway, what I was going to say, was something about me thinking Greipel is quite a nicer keeper-of-opinions-to-himself (going on a Tour of Britain interview I've just watched), whereas Cav isn't. He appears (no thanks to media, I'm sure) as a twat some times.


Remember San Remo this year? Greipel wasted a perfectly good opportunity to shut up.


Sorry, I don't remember exactly - is that anti or pro Cav?

issoisso wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
But I still loves him, so I do.

He's the same height as me.


I thought you said you were 1,69m? (I remember cause we discussed how it's the same as Rodríguez Pfft ).


You are quite right. I thought Cav was about the same?
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issoisso
rjc_43 wrote:
Sorry, I don't remember exactly - is that anti or pro Cav?


It's neither. It's Greipel shouldn't have mouthed off to the press. He wasn't happy about not being selected. Fine, I wouldn't like to have a rider on my team who didn't mind not being selected for big races when he's in good form.....but if he feels slighted, tell it to the team manager, not the press.

rjc_43 wrote:
You are quite right. I thought Cav was about the same?


1,75m actually.
You might want to start liking Freire (1,71m) Pfft
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