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| Juan |
Posted on 13-09-2009 11:46
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issoisso wrote:
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At least, Moncoutié is a "real" climber, not like Hesjedal or Moncoutié
You've been spending too much time with the "I'm a fan but I'm not a fan" guy
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Posted on 13-09-2009 11:47
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thanks doddy... seems that I haven't missed much. Do you guys think that today's stage could produce some changes ? I mean gesink at least stealing away 10 seconds (let's say) for Piti ? Also, when the hell did Evans had that puncture ? I mean damn, he lost over a minute !!! 
Evans caught back a lot of time when Boom relayed in the favorites' group (Boom's pace was obviously much much slower), which is why he only lost a minute.
Evans quite simply isn't as strong as the others. He couldn't even hold Sánchez's wheels. And try he did. But Sánchez dropped him. Without even attacking. Evans was on the wheel and simply blew up.
And this was Sánchez....a guy who was dropped by the others.
Anyway, today is the best chance for time gaps. This climb is insane. However it's only 6.6 kms long.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-09-2009 11:48
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Juan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
At least, Moncoutié is a "real" climber, not like Hesjedal or Moncoutié
You've been spending too much time with the "I'm a fan but I'm not a fan" guy
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Just kidding. You said Moncoutié isn't like Moncoutié. Like some guy who was yelling at me yesterday that he's "not a Cunego fan!....just a Cunego fan! How is that so hard to understand?" (or words to that effect)
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Posted on 13-09-2009 11:49
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issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
At least, Moncoutié is a "real" climber, not like Hesjedal or Moncoutié
You've been spending too much time with the "I'm a fan but I'm not a fan" guy
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Just kidding. You said Moncoutié isn't like Moncoutié. Like some guy who was yelling at me yesterday that he's "not a Cunego fan!....just a Cunego fan! How is that so hard to understand?" (or words to that effect)
OK 
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Posted on 13-09-2009 11:52
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issoisso wrote:
unnamed wrote:
thanks doddy... seems that I haven't missed much. Do you guys think that today's stage could produce some changes ? I mean gesink at least stealing away 10 seconds (let's say) for Piti ? Also, when the hell did Evans had that puncture ? I mean damn, he lost over a minute !!!
Evans caught back a lot of time when Boom relayed in the favorites' group (Boom's pace was obviously much much slower), which is why he only lost a minute.
Evans quite simply isn't as strong as the others. He couldn't even hold Sánchez's wheels. And try he did. But Sánchez dropped him. Without even attacking. Evans was on the wheel and simply blew up.
And this was Sánchez....a guy who was dropped by the others.
Anyway, today is the best chance for time gaps. This climb is insane. However it's only 6.6 kms long.
Boom? That was Moerenhout
Anyway if Gesink doesn't win something like one minute to Valverde it's pretty much over, or at least enough to take the jersey.
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Posted on 13-09-2009 11:54
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why Igor Anton is so week this year? |
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Posted on 13-09-2009 11:56
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issoisso wrote:
unnamed wrote:
thanks doddy... seems that I haven't missed much. Do you guys think that today's stage could produce some changes ? I mean gesink at least stealing away 10 seconds (let's say) for Piti ? Also, when the hell did Evans had that puncture ? I mean damn, he lost over a minute !!!
Evans caught back a lot of time when Boom relayed in the favorites' group (Boom's pace was obviously much much slower), which is why he only lost a minute.
Evans quite simply isn't as strong as the others. He couldn't even hold Sánchez's wheels. And try he did. But Sánchez dropped him. Without even attacking. Evans was on the wheel and simply blew up.
And this was Sánchez....a guy who was dropped by the others.
Anyway, today is the best chance for time gaps. This climb is insane. However it's only 6.6 kms long.
wow... Sammy droped Evans ? How ? Friday's stage was the one when Sammy wasn't quite holding in the favourites group. I mean he was always the last one compared to Gesink, Basso, Piti and Evans (maybe Tom D. also) who were alwasy relaying in the front. It kind of surprises me that nobody atacked on yesterday's stage. But, as you said isso, the climb looks better than the last two. Also, judging that it is the last day of the 3 consecutive mountain stages, it should provide some changes... Hopefully... |
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:09
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It's more than that: I've seen this climb used in Vuelta a few times before. It guarantees splintering the pack.
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:24
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issoisso wrote:
It's more than that: I've seen this climb used in Vuelta a few times before. It guarantees splintering the pack.
Why don't they use their famous climb ... *fotgot it's name... angliru, or something like that..neah...* Why did they left it out this year ? As for this one... Wasn't it last used in 2006, when Vino took the Vuelta and Kasheckin won the stage ?
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:25
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Isso: the dutch chanpion is Moerenhout. Also his face is 1000 years older.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 13-09-2009 12:30
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To get back at the neutral car fail; I havn't seen the incident with Evans, nor do I want to defend the neutral service but; keep in mind they work with different material then the teams have - it may not fit right away. Also, team mechanic change wheels in races quite regularly - these neutral mechanics probably not more then once a year.
They are here to help out when the gap is too small for team cars to be right behind. They work slower, but overall it's still better then having to wait. Give a little respect please. |
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:30
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unnamed wrote:
issoisso wrote:
It's more than that: I've seen this climb used in Vuelta a few times before. It guarantees splintering the pack.
Why don't they use their famous climb ... *fotgot it's name... angliru, or something like that..neah...* Why did they left it out this year ? As for this one... Wasn't it last used in 2006, when Vino took the Vuelta and Kasheckin won the stage ?
The same reason they didn't use Alp duez *sp this year, wrong part of the country and you want some variation.
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:33
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mrlol wrote:
To get back at the neutral car fail; I havn't seen the incident with Evans, nor do I want to defend the neutral service but; keep in mind they work with different material then the teams have - it may not fit right away. Also, team mechanic change wheels in races quite regularly - these neutral mechanics probably not more then once a year.
They are here to help out when the gap is too small for team cars to be right behind. They work slower, but overall it's still better then having to wait. Give a little respect please.
But in the end Evans did actually have to wait, the Neutral service spent a minute fiddling with his bike and then only just seemed to be done when the Silence car got there and Evans took a spare bike a couple of seconds after the car got there, and was off.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 13-09-2009 12:37
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Well, in one minute one can sure change a wheel - no doubt, or no matter who. So it must have been the materials not fitting together well. Silence rides with X wheels, while the neutrals have Y wheels with them, fitting bike T prefectly but not going well with bike C.
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:45
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The other problem Cadel is complaining about is the media blocking the road, TV cameras, press photographers etc. all wanting a picutre of the moment, blocking the silence car and the road ahead.
I think Cadel complains a little too much, but it is understandable.
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Posted on 13-09-2009 12:52
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doddy13 wrote:I think Cadel complains a little too much, but it is understandable.
LOL, this post reminds me of a quote by Eavns (a quote that earned him the nickname "Cuddles" )
Evans : "Stand on my dog and I'll cut your head off" at a bystander who collided with his dog, and headbutted a television camera. I know it hasn't got anything to do with Vuelta, but it was funny.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 13-09-2009 12:55
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He's got a point yes, but we know Cadel longer then today. Remember when he told the press 'Touch my dog and I'll kill you!' ?
edit: someone before me had just the same thing in mind
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 13-09-2009 14:10
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Breakaway day again?
Christian Knees (Mrm)
Damiano Cunego (Lam)
Jakob Fuglsang (Sax)
Adrian Palomares (Mco)
Bram Tankink (Rab)
Kevin De Weert (Sil)
Alain Perez (Eus)
Xavier Florencio (Gce)
Gonzalez Rios (Kgz)
9min. ahead. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-09-2009 14:12
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Fuglsang wins today  |
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Posted on 13-09-2009 14:22
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Hopefully he does, then I will win money from some friends But I think that Cunego might be the biggest "favourite" to take the stage in the break, he saved himself yesterday, and he seems to be a better climber now than Fuglsang...when he wants to
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