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Smal
ok, thanks for the advice guys. I'll read a couple of books but try to come up with my own ideas based on those and how I'm going in training itself.
 
johannes-w
Aquarius wrote:
Anyway, you can't dissociate training plans from experience, as not all people react to the same training the same. Some will react better, so have a worse recuperation and won't be able to take the same amount of training, other will improve more with less training, etc.
What you may read is certainly interesting, but don't follow it blindly for too long.

:lol: That's me.Pfft But I know what you mean. You just need to listen to your body
 
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cactus-jack
Heard a strange sound coming from my back wheel today during my traning ride, but I didn't think it was that imporant. It wasn't untill I came home that I noticed 4(!) spokes had broken in half!

What the hell did I do? Sad
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Aquarius
Rode on a stone, in a hole, or something like that ?
Or your rim is twisted, and the spokes were too tight to maintain it straight, that an effort (a bump, a sprint, anything noticeable) made them break.
Go get new ones tomorrow.
 
cactus-jack
I still rode for about 20km and didn't notice it, but when I came back and checked my wheel it was wobbling all over the place...

God dammit, those were new wheels aswell!
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felix_29
Equipment rule #1:
You never own enough wheelsets.

But a broken wheels is always shit. I hope you have a guarantee so you get a new one for free. Which brand are they from?
 
fcancellara
I am visiting Tuscany this summer, my camping is close to Bucine.

I was wondering if there are some nice hills/mountains to climb by bike in the area.

I've read about Monte Nerone, but it seems to be a very tough climb (13.7km long, avg. 8.5%).

I've never cycled longer than 40 km (flat), not to mention I've never even cycled a real hill.

Here is the climbbybike page:

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https://www.climbbybike.com/nl/beklimm...ainID=2602

So, anyone got advice?
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felix_29
Most important, eat and drink enough, also before you start the ride. At some point you´ll think "why the hell am i doing this", but the feeling on the top is really worth it.

I don´t know about the descent, but i might be a good idea to have a break on the top. Taking pics, eating etc.
I assume you do not have a very good bike handling (lack of twisted roads close to Leiden Wink ) so doing the downhill totally tired from the uphill isn´t a good idea.
 
fcancellara
felix_29 wrote:
Most important, eat and drink enough, also before you start the ride. At some point you´ll think "why the hell am i doing this", but the feeling on the top is really worth it.

I don´t know about the descent, but i might be a good idea to have a break on the top. Taking pics, eating etc.
I assume you do not have a very good bike handling (lack of twisted roads close to Leiden Wink ) so doing the downhill totally tired from the uphill isn´t a good idea.


I don't even have a race bike Pfft

But I do cycle up a bridge each day when I go to school (25m high, 400m uphill, 400m downhill Pfft), and there is a tricky corner in the downhill section, but sometimes I go through it with more than 40km/h.

My bike handling is ok, I would say.
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felix_29
By bike handling i especially meant the downhill skills. No offense, but i can´t imagine yours are good. It´s quite usual to suck in things you´ve never done, as did i when i started cycling (luckily, i have some short, but steep and technical descents closeby).

But with a MTB (or what kind of bike do you have?) i don´t see problems. Small gears for the uphill and wide tires for the downhill seems to be a good combination for you.
 
fcancellara
felix_29 wrote:
By bike handling i especially meant the downhill skills. No offense, but i can´t imagine yours are good. It´s quite usual to suck in things you´ve never done, as did i when i started cycling (luckily, i have some short, but steep and technical descents closeby).

But with a MTB (or what kind of bike do you have?) i don´t see problems. Small gears for the uphill and wide tires for the downhill seems to be a good combination for you.


I know, nothing compared to a real downhill.

I just have a normal bike (https://www.trekbikes.com/nl/nl/bikes/...speed_blx/), and I won't take it on the holiday.

I will probably just hire a race bike there.
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jph27
18% Gradient for a few hundred metres earlier. Did it in the saddle, twas good fun and felt nice and easy. Unfortunately it prevented me from updating Dyson HQ on here, but life goes on Pfft. Has anyone got any advice for how best to approach steep gradients?
 
felix_29
I think when Basso and Evans rode up the Zoncolan Evans was constantly out of his saddle while Basso did it in the saddle.
So you have to find out what makes you feel "comfortable" riding up steep hills.
 
Aquarius
If they're (very) short : get as much momentum as you can, and try to sprint up the hill.
If it's too long for that approach : it depends on your muscles, like felix said, find out what makes you more comfortable. Either turn your legs very fast, either go for a slightly bigger gear. Sitting on your saddle is more efficient than standing on the pedals, but it's not comfortable for everyone, and offers less reactivity, especially on bigger gears.

Also, try not to think that you'd be faster if you walked instead of cycling. Pfft
Edited by Aquarius on 15-07-2012 19:28
 
Ste117
jph27 wrote:
18% Gradient for a few hundred metres earlier. Did it in the saddle, twas good fun and felt nice and easy. Unfortunately it prevented me from updating Dyson HQ on here, but life goes on Pfft. Has anyone got any advice for how best to approach steep gradients?


I tend to swing the bike alot of steep gradeints, Just my climbing style I think. I climber a few hills on wednesday evening, Ashurst, Crank, Parbold were the main steep ones. Not in form so just sat in the saddle and twiddled my way up keeping my speed at about 10km/h on the steep stuff. Occasionally getting out of the saddle to maintain or up the speed when I felt it was dropping too much.
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Ste117
Bought a Garmin Edge 800 the other day, put into practice today and it works fine, I think I have found my way around it now and is ready to go for a long ride on my own without getting lost this time, like on Wednesday Grin
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housoe
i'm mostly into staying in the sadle, especially on really step gradients feel i have better bike control and easier acces to gearshifts. But still it depends on what you fell most comfortable with.
As a MTB i almost always stays in the sadle because that is what we are trained to do, can't really get past it even when racing on the road.
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jph27
Thanks for the help guys. I tried it again tonight, sitting in the saddle for the easier sections and then sprinting out of the saddle on the steepest bits and it worked quite well. Then I rode back down it. Pfft
 
sam1196
I just got back from a 3 week holiday in Italy!
I spent the first two weeks with my dad in a little village in the Pejo-Valley which is near Pejo-Terme (where a Giro stage once finished). Since i had my race-bike with me my objective was to really do some big-things.
Last year I did the Bonnette from Jausiers, Col de Vars and Pra-Loup, I really suffered on those 3 since i only rode occasionally. This year i started to ride every sunday with the cyclo-tourists of my village to have more "form" when I arrive in the Alps.
First day i did the Passo del Tonale from Fucine that went very well, in contrary to last year it wasn't somse sort of suffering all the way. So I was quite satisfied.
The next day I did the little trip to Pejo Terme which is about 12km long but only the last 4/5 are really uphill. Again no major difficulties.
I still felt great so I decided to go for the Gavia the next day.
18 km long averaging out at 7,9%. This climb is just Heaven for me, just a little narrow road with pine trees and you reallt get that cosy feeling there if you know what I mean Wink It went really well once again. It was however more a struggle than Tonale and Pejo-Terme.
Next up was the Stelvio, I first took one rest-day and then went to Prato from which the famous 48 hairpins start. It was a pleasant torture really Grin I did it with an average speed of 9,2km/h which isn't that bas I guess.
After another rest-day I did the Passo del Campo Carlo Magno (Maddona di Campiglio) i suffered a bit because I noticed that my form was a bit decreasing. But I suceeded.
Mortirolo via Monno was untill then maybe the hardest for me, i was really struggling on the steeper parts and riding too fast on the flatter pieces. I ended up tired but happy in the bar at the top having just completed the triple.

Then we had one more week in Fai Delle Paganella hich you may know from the Giro Del Trentino. That climb is really harder than I thought, I overestimated myself a bit and really had a though time on the long straight pieces... But eventually I got myself back i the right rythm and continued to the top.
Next up was the Monte Bondone of which i didn't know a thing when i was about to start. It soon became clear that it is an absolute beautifull climb, it doesn't go very hight but with many bends and a quite regular % it suited me well.

After another rest-day I wante to do the Passo Manghen from the south side (from this years Giro) It went very well untill I reached the final 5 kms which are incredibely steep i did something like 6km/h but reached the top nearly escaped from a not so soft collision with a cow Grin

On the way back home we took a hotel in Canazei and I did the Passo Fedaia from the East side. I thought it was going to be heavy but it went very well. The next day i did the Pordoi as fast as possible I did it in 55minutes.

Now considering I have yet to become 16, could it be that i'm 'talented"?

I would really appreciate it if you guys would take time to read through this wall of my rubbish-english Grin
Did someone do one of these climbs to?

PS: the whole vacation I had an image in my mind of I think Garzelli who was riding in the giro through a mountain pass in italy which was very very narrow a went through a canyon with waterfalls, it was a beautifull scenery there but I can't remember where it was? does someone know that?
 
solano
I went out cycling this afternoon. It was a lovely warm afternoon, so as I went past my local pub I saw guys sitting outside having a drink. I've been past many such times with no comments made. Today as I went past I heard, 'Go Wiggo' shouted.

It made me smile. Better than the usual things shouted at cyclists in the UK.
 
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