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Le Tour 09: Stage 14 - Colmar - Besanço
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| hakab |
Posted on 18-07-2009 22:02
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18 points, and Hushovd might even go for bonus sprints on the tougher stages where Mark can't compete with Hushovd |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-07-2009 22:08
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It's a shame when a competition is decided this way. But as someone said, it's time to move on. Hopefully, it's reversed tomorrow  |
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 18-07-2009 22:24
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It's a conspiracy against ENGLAND.
The juries obviously don't know how to do their experienced jobs, it's up to the English spectators to tell them how it's done. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 18-07-2009 23:31
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KenL wrote:
What was the reason for the reversal of time losses to Wiggo and the now injured Levi the other stage. They were not involved in the Katusha riders fall but was it awarded because they felt the split in the Pelaton came from the crash?
Im not sure if there was an official reason given with the decision - it was just the revokal of what was a very poor decision in the first place |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 18-07-2009 23:36
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Commissaire was interviewed by ITV, my brief outline of it.
ITV: So, can columbia appeal?
C: Well yes they can, but I will not accept it.
ITV: So, in short they can appeal, but you won't want to look again
C: Thats correct yes.
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But at the same time, the slow motion replays shown on ITV show Cavendish is a straight line, the road then narrows and thats what threw hushovd. The commissaire argues Cavendish was endangering Hushovd, when actually the ASO endangered them with their barrier placing.
So, lessons from this:
1) Barrier, straight lines on straight roads.
2) The decision was 100% wrong.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 18-07-2009 23:55
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In defense of Hushovd he hadn't seen the overhead shot, he was coming past Cavendish and then suddenly there was no room and he had to slow down to avoid hitting Cavendish, I doubt he noticed the slight bulge in the barriers, that said, I hope Cavendish gets in a break so Hushovd has do more than just sit on his wheel to win the green jersey
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| matt493 |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:06
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Doddy, find a new argument. It's time to get over it. THAT'S LIFE. Things dont always go your way. Time to grow up and end the argument.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:10
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matt493 wrote:
Doddy, find a new argument. It's time to get over it. THAT'S LIFE. Things dont always go your way. Time to grow up and end the argument.
Wow, that was uncalled for.
Time to grow up? Doddy's the one who is being more analytical of it than most, youve been one of the more 'childish' in terms of arguments if youre going to go down that whole route. |
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:12
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We got replays that says the ball was over the line in the CL-semi between Chelsea and Liverpool, too 
Something i dont understand is the criticsm of Hushovd. He was angry after the finish because he was blocked, and if it was the barriers fault, he was tricked by them. I will use Guidos post as an exapmle:
we have two lame perfomances from today..Thor talking..If this is the way he can accept yourself has green winner ..then congratulation.
Nice rider who was Roubaix victim has turned to selfish (you can choose word witch follows).
P.S. This was not about who is stage winner.. This was about ..how Thor is stealing green jersey..
Of course he will accept him self as the winner of the point competion. He has said that Cavendish is a better sprinter, and he has to beat him at experience and tactical smartness. Thor have been really good this Tour, the absolutly second best sprinter and a really good allround cyclist who have picked points at hard stages. I think he will win the pointclassification with more than fifteen points.
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| matt493 |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:12
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He has posted the same thing in a bunch of different posts. Its all opinionated not something facts can prove. Its opinion vs opinion so the fact that he is analytical is him trying to sound smart.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:14
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you're a bunch of arguing children
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:21
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matt493 wrote:
He has posted the same thing in a bunch of different posts. Its all opinionated not something facts can prove. Its opinion vs opinion so the fact that he is analytical is him trying to sound smart.
Doddy - quoting interviews, linking to videos, stuff like that
You - thinking that if officials think X has happened then X must have happened, having a go at Doddy |
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| matt493 |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:25
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Sporting, you did realize that all his links were the same video that proved nothing and made it actually harder to see. also i see no quotes that have anything to do with what he was saying. One about if Columbia can appeal but nothing about his argument.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:36
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matt493 wrote:
Sporting, you did realize that all his links were the same video that proved nothing and made it actually harder to see. also i see know quotes that have anything to do with what he was saying. One about if Columbia can appeal but nothing about his argument.
Theres nothing hard to see about: https://nl.tinypic.com/player.php?v=33...z5&s=3 You cant look at that truthfully and pretend there wasnt a bulge there that had an impact on the sprint.
The quotes provided more content to the debate - what Hushovd said, what the Commisaire said. Thats much useful than your opiniuons imo. |
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:41
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btw I dont know if this have been mentioned but.. After the race Eisel came up to Hushovd and where like sorry.. Hushovd said to him: You saw what he did, Eisel respond: Yes.
Edited by Biathlon on 19-07-2009 00:41
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| matt493 |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:41
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Maybe you should check your emotions and stop being bias. I don't need to see it on the internet because I have a t.v. that makes it much easier to see. I don't understand why you are so narrow minded. If Hushovd and Cavendish's positions were swapped you would be upset about the decision if they didn't declassify him. You know its true.
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| hakab |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:42
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McEwen think it was because Cavendish looked behind himself and as if he was looking at Hushovd that made the commissionaire dq Cav |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:47
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matt493 wrote:
Maybe you should check your emotions and stop being bias. I don't need to see it on the internet because I have a t.v. that makes it much easier to see. I don't understand why you are so narrow minded. If Hushovd and Cavendish's positions were swapped you would be upset about the decision if they didn't declassify him. You know its true.
Just because your biased as hell (in favour of your view and probably against Cav judging by posts), doesnt mean I am. Youre refusing to even acknowledge something that goes against your belief of what happened. And you call me narrow-minded?
If the roles were reversed then I would say Cavendish did a poor sprint. I certainly would not demand Hushovd be disqualified from the sprint because no way was it a serious enough incident to warrant that, whoever the riders involved.
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| matt493 |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:49
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SportingNonsense wrote:
matt493 wrote:
Maybe you should check your emotions and stop being bias. I don't need to see it on the internet because I have a t.v. that makes it much easier to see. I don't understand why you are so narrow minded. If Hushovd and Cavendish's positions were swapped you would be upset about the decision if they didn't declassify him. You know its true.
Just because your biased as hell, doesnt mean I am. Youre refusing to even acknowledge something that goes against your belief of what happened. And you call me narrow-minded?
If the roles were reversed then I would say Cavendish did a poor sprint. I certainly would not demand Hushovd be disqualified from the sprint because no way was it a serious enough incident to warrant that, whoever the riders involved.
 just curious, what am I biased against? Brits? Columbia? Nope none of those. It's quite funny that you can actually say you wouldn't want Hushovd disqualified. got a good laugh from that. 
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2009 00:52
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matt493 wrote:
It's quite funny that you can actually say you wouldn't want Hushovd disqualified. got a good laugh from that.
Yes, its already been established that you cant accept the truth. I find it funny that you think you know me better than I do, because I can guarantee that you do not.
Id quote the first part of the post but that is already discredited by an edit I made before you posted. Its always worth checking the topic before clicking submit and making a further fool of yourself.
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