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| niconico |
Posted on 02-07-2009 21:58
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Cavendish has told Ritzau that he's getting bored of the lack of competition in mass sprints 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:13
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Lloyd Mondory throws some wood into the fire by saying that since he rode with Frank Schleck in youth categories and thus knows him well, he's not surprised at all that Frank's career wasn't a natural progression like is normal in clean athletes, but instead a very sudden and very huge jump from average to top rider around the time where his payments to Fuentes were made.
EDIT: He also threw some poison Cancellara's way
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| ruben |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:14
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Well Cancellara was trained by Cecchini. |
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| rasm |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:21
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issoisso wrote:
Lloyd Mondory throws some wood into the fire by saying that since he rode with Frank Schleck in youth categories and thus knows him well, he's not surprised at all that Frank's career wasn't a natural progression like is normal in clean athletes, but instead a very sudden and very huge jump from average to top rider around the time where his payments to Fuentes were made.
EDIT: He also threw some poison Cancellara's way
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:36
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French TV2, so no link.
Although it'll probably be on their webpage if they have one, I didn't bother to look.
By the way, he also said something about Columbia and the Tour de Suisse, but by the time I turned up the volume on the TV, I'd missed most of that, so I've no idea what it was about.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:44
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adding Lloyd Mondory to enemy list .......... done
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:50
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rasm wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Lloyd Mondory throws some wood into the fire by saying that since he rode with Frank Schleck in youth categories and thus knows him well, he's not surprised at all that Frank's career wasn't a natural progression like is normal in clean athletes, but instead a very sudden and very huge jump from average to top rider around the time where his payments to Fuentes were made.
EDIT: He also threw some poison Cancellara's way
Link?
Well he is not all wrong..but definatly not the person who should talk like this. He is active rider. And this is not nice to speculate like this in the press.. |
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Posted on 02-07-2009 22:52
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He's french he'll survive, and great that he shows the curage to do that, but every time he'll attempt an attack in any race Saxo Bank is in, they'll neutrialise it, alá Armstrong vs. Simeoni.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2009 22:57
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The Schleck fans are acting like Mondory's the villain here. I'm not sure if that's more funny than sad or more sad than funny.
Actually I think it's funny and pathetic.
Schleck got caught paying Fuentes money. He's a doper. Don't like it? Get over it.  |
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Posted on 02-07-2009 23:02
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Did I make it sound like Mondory is the villian? I tried to make him sound like a hero. I'm not shcleck fan to be honest I'm just to lazy to come up with a new nickname (and Wahlon ain't helping)
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 03-07-2009 01:10
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Well he is not all wrong..but definatly not the person who should talk like this. He is active rider. And this is not nice to speculate like this in the press..
I'd have to agree. What good does it do throwing around accusations?
I already know what he's saying, as does anyone with half a brain. |
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Posted on 03-07-2009 01:38
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Mapmyride.com, a website I use to, wait for it, map my rides, is having a sweepstakes for the tour. The most recent advertising e-mail was titled
"What do Armstrong, Contador and Evans have in common?"
Although it was about none of them being able to win the prizes, what do you think I thought of when I first saw it
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| kida |
Posted on 03-07-2009 02:13
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fenian_1234 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Well he is not all wrong..but definatly not the person who should talk like this. He is active rider. And this is not nice to speculate like this in the press..
I'd have to agree. What good does it do throwing around accusations?
I already know what he's saying, as does anyone with half a brain.
I don't get the logic, it's not ok for a cyclist to say Schleck/Contador/Evans etc is "cheating" but it's ok for random internet fans to say Schleck/Contador/Evans(insert name of rider(s) that you hate) etc are cheating. Surely it's a good thing that this is now happening and if the allegations aren't true, the rider being accused can always take the matter to the courts. |
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 03-07-2009 03:01
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armstrong just isn't dumb enough to dope anymore. he used to and its clear that is the case but now its pretty much the most retarded thing he can do.
I don`t wan`t to start another Lance-is-obviously-doped-discussion, but wheter you are doping or not has nothing to do with dumbness...
With all the medicaments on the market to hide doping and all forms of it that can`t even be detected, the changes of Armstrong getting caught are close to zero (if he should decide to dope).
And even if he was caught, what should ASO do? Tell the world that the guy who won their race seven years in a road was doped? That`s suicide.
Lance can dope as much as he`d like to. In fact, even as sad as it sounds, he`d be stupid if he did not dope.
the problem is that you are not in the states. if you knew how much money he garners and his popularity is here...he has way more to lose in terms of rep and endorsements if he were to even risk getting caught. trying anything even remotely illegal is suicide if you look at it that way. I mean he wouldn't risk throwing EVERYTHING he has here just to win it an 8th time? give me a break. he wont. he's already got the excuse in hand...he's too old. its a win win situation. personally i think he just wants to test himself out. |
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Posted on 03-07-2009 05:11
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So the most tested athlete ever has never turned in a positive doping control as much as the french have tried. Why wouldn't they (UCI) who sometimes have French control want to destroy his popularity and results?
I don't see how hard work can go undermined because all sorts of European cyclists cheat. |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 03-07-2009 05:44
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Chicra I think you may have just walked into a huge shit storm.
As for mondory, I think he should let anti doping organizations do the talking. I whole heartedly agree with guido, active riders should focus on riding rather than making accusations.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-07-2009 07:25
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Phanekim wrote:
the problem is that you are not in the states. if you knew how much money he garners and his popularity is here...he has way more to lose in terms of rep and endorsements if he were to even risk getting caught. trying anything even remotely illegal is suicide if you look at it that way. I mean he wouldn't risk throwing EVERYTHING he has here just to win it an 8th time? give me a break. he wont. he's already got the excuse in hand...he's too old. its a win win situation. personally i think he just wants to test himself out.
The two blind Armstrong fanboys in this topic, I'll ignore. I could post evidence, but it's clear from their posts tha they're far detached from reality, as they keep posting "facts" to back up their arguments that are simply not true.
But to you, I submit this:
If, as you say, Armstrong was doped before he retired, but isn't now....what are you going to say/think when he inevitably rides the tour at only 10 or 20 watts below his impossibly high EPO-fuelled climbing powers?
You know full well EPO gives you about 40 watts, bare minimum. |
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Posted on 03-07-2009 07:42
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This thread is great, this is about the most cycling news i have access to in Australia.
For example todays top cycling story was just Cadel after the race saying he is in good form and then getting taken away by the media person. |
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 03-07-2009 07:54
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issoisso wrote:
Phanekim wrote:
the problem is that you are not in the states. if you knew how much money he garners and his popularity is here...he has way more to lose in terms of rep and endorsements if he were to even risk getting caught. trying anything even remotely illegal is suicide if you look at it that way. I mean he wouldn't risk throwing EVERYTHING he has here just to win it an 8th time? give me a break. he wont. he's already got the excuse in hand...he's too old. its a win win situation. personally i think he just wants to test himself out.
The two blind Armstrong fanboys in this topic, I'll ignore. I could post evidence, but it's clear from their posts tha they're far detached from reality, as they keep posting "facts" to back up their arguments that are simply not true.
But to you, I submit this:
If, as you say, Armstrong was doped before he retired, but isn't now....what are you going to say/think when he inevitably rides the tour at only 10 or 20 watts below his impossibly high EPO-fuelled climbing powers?
You know full well EPO gives you about 40 watts, bare minimum.
Isso, Ill reexamine my opinion. But, its clear from the wattage data from the giro at least, that the top riders were on some sort of sauce. Lance's wattage numbers were significantly lower than theirs at the giro at least.
with the recent rumblings about the 4-7 positives, i believe gripper and co might be catching on. We'll see how this year's tdf goes. With that said, I do believe from the wattage data i saw at least from the giro...that the peloton is on something....i dont know what. Also, with that said, I expect lance to not be competitive this time around. I also expect contador not to win. It might just come down to whoever is more of a bigger risk taker when it comes to doping. whoever takes the risk w/o getting caught. TDF is probably going to be more regulated/scrutinized and the authorities have a better idea of what the field is using.
just my two cents. like i said, wait till the wattage numbers come out. I highly do not think he will dope and as a result will not be competitive. thats my gut instinct. |
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Posted on 03-07-2009 08:22
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I think he'll be quite competitive. But that question will start to be answered tomorrow, eh?  |
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