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Andrew |
Posted on 09-06-2009 18:06
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Juan wrote:
According to L'Equipe, Colom found positive out of competition on the 2nd of April
Yea UCI are evil they are going after all the spanish dopers because the spanish cycling agentur just are ignoring them.
Its so unfair for the spanish people now they just thought they were save in spain but that aint the case.
Edited by Andrew on 09-06-2009 18:07
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issoisso |
Posted on 09-06-2009 18:30
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His blood passport (which is still being built, along with all other riders' indicated impossible values for a clean rider, so they tested the hell out of him until they came up with a positive.
Where did he ride last year? Oh right.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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schleck93 |
Posted on 09-06-2009 18:35
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Good for him that the "pay back 5 years wage" contract hasn't begun yet
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 09-06-2009 18:49
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issoisso wrote:
Where did he ride last year? Oh right.
still they never get caught while riding for Bruyneel's team, just when they leave the team...
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knasen |
Posted on 09-06-2009 19:06
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Bruyneel is the king of "non doping". |
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Posted on 24-11-2024 15:35
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t-baum |
Posted on 09-06-2009 19:13
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It isn't cheating unless you get caught, is it.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 09-06-2009 19:45
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t-baum wrote:
It isn't cheating unless you get caught, is it.
it isn't murder unless you get caught..is it. Come on man! |
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t-baum |
Posted on 09-06-2009 20:07
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Guido Mukk wrote:
t-baum wrote:
It isn't cheating unless you get caught, is it.
it isn't murder unless you get caught..is it. Come on man!
you just compared murder to cycling, come on.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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Guido Mukk |
Posted on 09-06-2009 20:14
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t-baum wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
t-baum wrote:
It isn't cheating unless you get caught, is it.
it isn't murder unless you get caught..is it. Come on man!
you just compared murder to cycling, come on.
cheating..
There is rules and ethics in real life and sport..you need to follow them. |
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Wolfos |
Posted on 09-06-2009 20:21
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t-baum wrote:
It isn't cheating unless you get caught, is it.
Cheating is basically gaining an unfair advantage over others by unethical and/or illegal actions. Do you not do that if you dope? |
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issoisso |
Posted on 10-06-2009 09:39
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Good old greg's at it again.
Linky Linky
Reporter: Do you think Armstrong will ever come clean?
LeMond: *with great emphasis*Him? No way! ........Absolutely not he, has no conscience.
The strange thing is that my power output never increased. When I was 18 my power output was the same as when I won the Tour at 25. In fact, a few months ago I started cycling seriously again(...) I'm 47 and fat as hell (...) my power output surprisingly is still the same.
[goes on to say that he couldn't be a pro because his VO2max isn't anywhere near what it was before]
Can you finish [The Tour] clean? Absolutely. (...) Would it be more dramatic? of course. There would be bigger time differences and people blowing up a lot more. Racing as it is with doping now is robotic.
I'm very disappointed Lance worked with Dr. Ferrari. (...) Ferrari is known for one thing: if you give him money he will make you go very very fast. And it's not because of some phisiology.
In fact, I once met him. He looked down at my bike and said "what's that?"
I said "that's a power meter!"
"What's it for?" he said.
..............I said "it measures your power output so you can know if you're progressing in your training"
He had no concept of that. (...) He's just a hematologist, he knows nothing about training.
I went to the UCI (...) because in 1987 or 1988 I went to the UCI to ask them if they would consider starting to do blood tests for doping.
And I still remember the reaction of the riders: "that would violate our human rights!"
I mean...what human rights? Nobody's forcing anyone to race bikes. That's the way it was in the 80s. They fought even just having a blood test.
Armstrong said to me "C'mon Greg, you're telling me you never used EPO? Everyone's used EPO. Your win in 89 was like mine, it was a miracle"
If I'd used it, I would've won the Tour by 30 minutes, not 8 seconds
(...)
Trek never had a problem with anti-doping when I campaigned for it in the 80s, never before, never then. Never after....until Armstrong won the Tour. And then, suddenly Trek had a problem with anti-doping.
Riders are given SSRIs and other substances. You get off SSRIs you should take a year or so to wind down....but these riders stop riding and go cold turkey immediately.
They go into a severe state of depression. Then what's the option? Suicide. That's what's happening.
So I called him [Derek McQuaid] and he told me that the Tour de France winner had in fact tested positive, it was Floyd Landis.
I probably knew Floyd Landis before Floyd was positive.
More importantly, he goes on to detail how people "on the inside" were staging a sort of revolution to get the sport away from the corrupt UCI....and they were "busted" and fired.
The worst thing happened, he says. Since then (2006), the ASO has been corrupted. It's now as corrupt as the UCI, and wants doping to be kept secret as much as the UCI. One of these people was Patrice Clerc.
That was the reason behind the entire UCI vs. ASO thing.
The UCI didn't lose that battle...they won it. And the battle for a clean sport lost a very important battle.
Edited by issoisso on 10-06-2009 10:40
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Xavier |
Posted on 10-06-2009 11:37
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https://sports.yah...;type=lgns |
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issoisso |
Posted on 10-06-2009 12:11
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*hopes for big names*
*knows he'll be disappointed as the UCI wants to protect big names*
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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ruben |
Posted on 10-06-2009 12:15
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This is the 2352353225th time they announced the names of the blood passport |
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CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-06-2009 12:16
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"“There will be no provisional suspension. It will be up to the teams to decide what they do,” he said."
What? |
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ReschNicolai |
Posted on 10-06-2009 12:26
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Go Le mond! Hope Armstrong soon gets caught!
Favorite riders: All non Italians.
Favorite team: Astana and Cervélo
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chrica04 |
Posted on 10-06-2009 13:38
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Armstrong is clean. Simple. |
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luckyman1 |
Posted on 10-06-2009 13:42
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Posted on 10-06-2009 13:46
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HAHAHAHAHA
NO!!!!
If ullrich vino kloeden et al all doped please explain how armstrong didnt and that most of his team that helped him win have all been caught doping??? |
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chrica04 |
Posted on 10-06-2009 14:00
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Well Armstrong has always been stronger genetically, trains harder than the rest...I dont know, maybe he does it based on hard work. What I am saying....why hasn't George Hincapie been caught yet....I would guess he would be the same as he and Armstrong were/are so close. |
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