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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 12-02-2009 12:29
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Spaniard have new pet now named Contador..Valverde had almost like diplomatic immunity 3 years ago. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:03
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This will be juicy....
Lance's first blood test results:
https://www.livestrong.com/lance-armst...b3721f0c9/
Edited by Deadpool on 12-02-2009 13:03
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| Xavier |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:09
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great comments on that site  im surprised he didnt remove some of them |
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:10
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Has he had 17 tests as one of the comments say?
Edited by mattiasgt on 12-02-2009 13:10
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| t-baum |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:12
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Yep, glad too see some of us Americans aren't complete idiots.
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race." |
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| Xavier |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:12
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he underwent more tests than he posted, but dunno if its 17 or more or less :-) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-02-2009 13:36
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He said so himself a while ago that he will only post results if he thinks there's a chance of anyone finding them suspicious.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| ruben |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:35
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Notice the sudden jump at the last test. Hmm |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:39
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My favorite quote 
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to JoVadebrouck,
So many europeans just cant handle the fact that a clean, drug free american completely dominated your doped up peloton. Get over it. Lance is just a more determined, genetically superior athlete. Where are Tom Boonens test results?
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:42
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Ruben wrote:
Notice the sudden jump at the last test. Hmm
In hematocrite? Yes i noticed, but still 45% ain't high.
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:47
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To any normal human being there is not a great deal suspicious about those test results. The fact he undertook intense training (ie racing the TDU) would increase levels significantly. I find some of your jumping to conclusions upon results you clearly have no idea about insulting to the scientific community.
If required, I can provide quantitative research journals into the effects on altitude upon haemoglobin etc, and then you'll see that the changes in his blood make up, and hormone levels, quite normal. In fact, I shan't doubt for one second that when he goes to train for the Giro or Tour in high altitude, and his haemoglobin sky rockets that nigh-on 90% of you all will shout "dope" before you even realise what you are saying.
Give the lad a chance, and yourself a chance to learn about the human body.
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| mattiasgt |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:48
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t-baum wrote:
My favorite quote
trimande
to JoVadebrouck,
So many europeans just cant handle the fact that a clean, drug free american completely dominated your doped up peloton. Get over it. Lance is just a more determined, genetically superior athlete. Where are Tom Boonens test results?
Okay, that's a clear sign that Armstrong ain't human.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:49
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Also, Ruben and Schleck93, haematocrit can change daily depending upon your hydration levels, time of day tested, etc, etc. You cannot go upon haematocrit as a basis for doping. Yes it can be used as a indicator somethings going on, but that has to be looking at averages of weekly values (tested every day) at the same time, consistently, and being at the same hydration levels all the time.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-02-2009 14:57
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rjc_43 wrote:
To any normal human being there is not a great deal suspicious about those test results. The fact he undertook intense training (ie racing the TDU) would increase levels significantly.
Quite right. GIven the values he's publishing, there's nothing we can ascertain from them. The only possible way for those values alone to tell us he doped would be for his haematocrit to stay constant or even rise during a 3 week stage race.
rjc_43 wrote:
Also, Ruben and Schleck93, haematocrit can change daily depending upon your hydration levels, time of day tested, etc, etc. You cannot go upon haematocrit as a basis for doping. Yes it can be used as a indicator somethings going on, but that has to be looking at averages of weekly values (tested every day) at the same time, consistently, and being at the same hydration levels all the time.
In fact, just whether you're standing or sitting down can make it vary, since the lifespan of a red blood cell is so short.
Edited by issoisso on 12-02-2009 14:58
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 12-02-2009 15:05
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t-baum wrote:
My favorite quote
trimande
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So many europeans just cant handle the fact that a clean, drug free american completely dominated your doped up peloton. Get over it. Lance is just a more determined, genetically superior athlete. Where are Tom Boonens test results?
Keep dreaming |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-02-2009 15:11
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I also doubt that Armstrong would put any tests up that were 'insecure'. He knows enough about this to know that those values won't get him in trouble by any means. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 12-02-2009 15:21
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CrueTrue wrote:
I also doubt that Armstrong would put any tests up that were 'insecure'. He knows enough about this to know that those values won't get him in trouble by any means.
Absolutly..p.s. this is he's page and he's decision what and when he gonna show us.
I need much more..to clean he's name ..7 x tour winner from (1999-2005)..come on.
And wow 2008 test's ..retired cyclist test's. |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 12-02-2009 15:28
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I'm just surprised deadpool posted this on time.
Edited by t-baum on 12-02-2009 15:29
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-02-2009 17:43
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Well, at least Don Catlin's a funny guy.
I loved him in "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
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| Oliuj |
Posted on 12-02-2009 18:10
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issoisso wrote:
In fact, just whether you're standing or sitting down can make it vary, since the lifespan of a red blood cell is so short.
It isn't that short. A red blood cell has a lifespan of 3 to 4 months. |
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