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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 11-06-2008 18:56
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hehe
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-06-2008 18:57
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I'm not sure you realise this: There's no doubt in my mind which of them is faster. Clearly Steegmans.
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| Stairs |
Posted on 11-06-2008 18:58
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issoisso wrote:
Stairs wrote:
Yes, and we all know that you are not allowed in the Tour if you have a character of some special kind.
If Boonen was a minor rider or wasn't belgian, you'd be calling for his head.
I have no special relathionship to Belgians and though I'm against drugs, I think it's stupid to get excluded for something not illegal. Imagine a society like that. He'll be risking a civil case and yes, he has done something illegal as a civil but not as a cyclist. |
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Posted on 11-06-2008 19:02
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Stairs wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Stairs wrote:
Yes, and we all know that you are not allowed in the Tour if you have a character of some special kind.
If Boonen was a minor rider or wasn't belgian, you'd be calling for his head.
I have no special relathionship to Belgians and though I'm against drugs, I think it's stupid to get excluded for something not illegal. Imagine a society like that. He'll be risking a civil case and yes, he has done something illegal as a civil but not as a cyclist.
listen to the wise man stairs
thats my point of view too
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-06-2008 19:05
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Well it's a known fact that you can, and probably will, be excluded from top sport events if you fail to act maturely towards the fact that you are a role model. That being taking drugs, getting into fights or driving drunk. It's all irrelevant towards the sport itself, but the overtone of the surface will be brought down according to stupidity...
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| Xavier |
Posted on 11-06-2008 19:10
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issoisso wrote:
I'm not sure you realise this: There's no doubt in my mind which of them is faster. Clearly Steegmans.
Steegmans his positioning is poor and he cant handle the pressure 
When nothing is expected of him he is great, like in Paris-Nice, but when something is expected of him he sucks or makes poor decisions in the sprint.
He might be faster but he's not a winner. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 11-06-2008 19:12
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Well at least last years yellow and green jersey won't be defended 
Doesn't bother me, looking forward to the tour
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| Xavier |
Posted on 11-06-2008 19:19
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I hope Valverde won't win it tho.
They ban Contador/astana/Boonen to protect the image of the tour, which I can totally understand after the tours we had last couple of years.
But I fail to see how a Operacion Puerto-rider winning might not be damaging to the tour's image as well.
Or why Astana gets punished and a team like Rabobank, who knew Rasmussen lied about his whereabouts, doesnt get some kind of sanction. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 11-06-2008 19:50
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Or Discovery/US postal, who were allowed in the Tour every year even though ex-riders like Vaughters have told about the doping system they used.
But ofcourse, they, especially Armstrong, also bribed the UCI/ASO. |
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| litllemagnum |
Posted on 11-06-2008 20:01
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GO BOONEN!!!! |
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Posted on 11-06-2008 20:15
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Ruben wrote:
Or Discovery/US postal, who were allowed in the Tour every year even though ex-riders like Vaughters have told about the doping system they used.
But ofcourse, they, especially Armstrong, also bribed the UCI/ASO.
But no clear evidence = no case for concern. It's only now the ASO have the power to do whatever the heck they like they are chucking teams in and out.
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Posted on 11-06-2008 20:19
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No Tom Boonen in the tour 2008.
Prudhomme has announced that he is not welcome if the cocaine allegations hold any truth.
Goddamnit Tom you moron!...
Edited by Mads_0 on 11-06-2008 20:21
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| Marginalo |
Posted on 11-06-2008 21:21
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It was easy to predict the Tour wouldn't let him compete for the green jersey again. Can't say I'm a fan of either Contador or Boonen, but their presence at least would make me watch the TdF this year (rather to laugh with Boonen, but hey...). I think I have something better to do now, quite frankly. B) |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-06-2008 11:00
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Well, there's no doubt that the Tour will be very different from the other Tours we have been seeing the past few years. Imagine what Tour 08 (Evans, Menchov, ..) will look like compared to Tour 09 (Basso, Contador, Leipheimer, Klöden, Boonen) |
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| p3druh |
Posted on 12-06-2008 13:13
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Since I'm on holiday, I had nothing better to do so:
Seriously now, in general I'm against drugs. Even more so if you're a professional athlete. It's not just the question of it being a performance enhancer (although I'm not sure if it still has any effect after 2 days) but more of question of charisma. Boonen is a roll model for many young riders and this kind of action creates a sort of a snowball effect that will go on through various generations.
And those are my 2 cents...
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 12-06-2008 13:19
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Posted on 12-06-2008 13:22
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Why?
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| jacknic |
Posted on 12-06-2008 14:00
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I think it is absolutely reasonable to exclude Tom Boonen from the Tour. People need to know that the cycling community does not accept illegal drugs - out of competition or not. The fact that coke doesn't enhance the performance for long enough for Boonen to have bennefitted from it is irrellevant. And heres why:
A lot of people, including potential sponsors, know fuck all else about cycling than what they read in the papers. Now they see yet another headline with one of the biggest stars being caught with drugs in his system. And that is enough to further hurt the image of the sport and scare of potential sponsors.
It doesn't take Einstein to figure out that it is extremely stupid to get caught doing drugs when you are one of the top performers in a sport with a humongously suspect reputation.
You can't suspend Tom Boonen for snorting coke out of competition, but it is the race arrangers duty to punish him for being an amzingly careless idiot. Especially since his team and their balls semms to reward his recent moronic conduct with a three years extention. |
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Posted on 12-06-2008 14:19
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yes but why does that apply for Boonen and not for Schumacher? he got caught drunk driving and tested positive for amfetamines, yet he is allowed to participate without question |
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| Immortal |
Posted on 12-06-2008 14:28
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MortChill wrote:
yes but why does that apply for Boonen and not for Schumacher? he got caught drunk driving and tested positive for amfetamines, yet he is allowed to participate without question
That`s a lousy comment, have you seen a single person in this thread that has said that they don`t wish that Schumacher had been denied participation to? 
Both Boonen and Schumacher deserve a long suspencion for what they have done, both to themself and towards cycling...
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