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Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
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You are right, but chances are he won't win a stage when you can't beat Blythe and you have been outclassed the whole season


He has been in average form by his standards but has won races this year, it didn't really surprise me that he was beaten at the nationals, did he even have a teammate at the race? Cavendish has always struggled without some type of leadout support and especially when he isn't in flying form. Also Blythe isn't hopeless, he's no star but is a solid Dom who rarely gets to ride for himself so took his chance and bagged a win. National road races often throw up winners who usually play the roll of Domestiques with their Pro teams.


You really defend Cavendish with tooth and nails, don't you Strydz?

He got beaten in a regular sprint by Adam Blythe. Hasn't come close to any win of significance and is also prepping for Olympics. I think this smells like some kind of bet. Wink


It wasn't a regular sprint though. The race was absolute chaos. Cavendish apparently did turns on the front for most of it, and Blythe, while he was in the early breakaway, was resting at the back of the Cav group for the last 15km or so. Wouldn't read too much into this sprint loss for Cav, but since he's targeting the Olympics, I doubt he's as competitive on the road as usual this year. We'll see in the Tour. I think he can nick a stage win, but he won't be my favourite for any of the sprints.
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Riis123
Point taken.

Maybe my dislike for Cavendish clouds my judgement, but I think EBH has bigger chances of winning a stage 2, 4, 10 or 16 than Cav have at winning a regular sprint.
 
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Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
You are right, but chances are he won't win a stage when you can't beat Blythe and you have been outclassed the whole season


He has been in average form by his standards but has won races this year, it didn't really surprise me that he was beaten at the nationals, did he even have a teammate at the race? Cavendish has always struggled without some type of leadout support and especially when he isn't in flying form. Also Blythe isn't hopeless, he's no star but is a solid Dom who rarely gets to ride for himself so took his chance and bagged a win. National road races often throw up winners who usually play the roll of Domestiques with their Pro teams.


You really defend Cavendish with tooth and nails, don't you Strydz?

He got beaten in a regular sprint by Adam Blythe. Hasn't come close to any win of significance and is also prepping for Olympics. I think this smells like some kind of bet. Wink


Not really defending him that staunchly (actually dislike Cavendish quite a bit) but more just trying to put the nationals into context, also a guy who's won 26 Tour stages can't be discounted while he still is winning races even if he's passed his best. I think it's 50/50 he can win a stage at the race and yeah I do think DD look to have better options for stage wins with EBH and Cummings the two that spring to mind.
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Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
You are right, but chances are he won't win a stage when you can't beat Blythe and you have been outclassed the whole season


He has been in average form by his standards but has won races this year, it didn't really surprise me that he was beaten at the nationals, did he even have a teammate at the race? Cavendish has always struggled without some type of leadout support and especially when he isn't in flying form. Also Blythe isn't hopeless, he's no star but is a solid Dom who rarely gets to ride for himself so took his chance and bagged a win. National road races often throw up winners who usually play the roll of Domestiques with their Pro teams.


You really defend Cavendish with tooth and nails, don't you Strydz?

He got beaten in a regular sprint by Adam Blythe. Hasn't come close to any win of significance and is also prepping for Olympics. I think this smells like some kind of bet. Wink


Not really defending him that staunchly (actually dislike Cavendish quite a bit) but more just trying to put the nationals into context, also a guy who's won 26 Tour stages can't be discounted while he still is winning races even if he's passed his best. I think it's 50/50 he can win a stage at the race and yeah I do think DD look to have better options for stage wins with EBH and Cummings the two that spring to mind.


My argument isn't based on the nationals alone obviously, the Olympics and him simply not being as fast as other guys and still being a one trick is the crux of it.

I say 40/60, but its hugely depending on him being lucky and outsprinting second tiers. instead of Kittel fx.
 
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Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
You are right, but chances are he won't win a stage when you can't beat Blythe and you have been outclassed the whole season


He has been in average form by his standards but has won races this year, it didn't really surprise me that he was beaten at the nationals, did he even have a teammate at the race? Cavendish has always struggled without some type of leadout support and especially when he isn't in flying form. Also Blythe isn't hopeless, he's no star but is a solid Dom who rarely gets to ride for himself so took his chance and bagged a win. National road races often throw up winners who usually play the roll of Domestiques with their Pro teams.


You really defend Cavendish with tooth and nails, don't you Strydz?

He got beaten in a regular sprint by Adam Blythe. Hasn't come close to any win of significance and is also prepping for Olympics. I think this smells like some kind of bet. Wink


I should of taken that bet :lol:
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