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| brun sweater |
Posted on 19-03-2008 18:55
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Was this the Tour where Lance flushed Landis extra blood down the toilet, because he'd revealed he was leaving for Phonak? (according to Walsh) |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 19-03-2008 19:11
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David Walsh has never published anything legitimate
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| issoisso |
Posted on 19-03-2008 19:18
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I have a very hard time believing anything Walsh writes. Because I have a very hard time believing anyone with an Agenda. Which is why I don't believe the likes of Landis.
Edited by issoisso on 19-03-2008 19:18
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 19-03-2008 19:40
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...but the thing about the toilet flushing was a part of that same IM conversation. Betsy Andreu just took that part out when she first brought it forward, during that case in Texas with the insurance company trying to avoid paying the TdF prize money. She later revealed it to Walsh, and he wrote about it in one of his books?
All Walsh do is quoting people? Betsy Andreu, Greg Lemond, O'Reilly, DiCanio etc etc?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-03-2008 08:11
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brun sweater wrote:
Was this the Tour where Lance flushed Landis extra blood down the toilet, because he'd revealed he was leaving for Phonak? (according to Walsh) No, Landis left USP late 2004, and was pissed at them being so strong in 2005 once he was at Phonak.
That IM extract is from August 2005, I reckon. |
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| Da Rizzer |
Posted on 20-03-2008 15:24
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TEAMS FOR TOUR DE FRANCE:
17 Pro-tour teams = all except Astana
+ Slipstream, Agritubel + Barloworld
so, no surprises |
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Posted on 20-03-2008 19:14
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definately good wildcards 
we should see these 3 teams attacking regularly
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Posted on 20-03-2008 19:57
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As expected, it looks like the suposed revolution was way overhyped
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| Dankan |
Posted on 21-03-2008 09:40
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Alby Davis finally got a team: Mitsubishi - Jartazi. |
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Posted on 21-03-2008 12:06
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 Better late than never for Davis. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:20
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Nobody seemed to want to touch Davis with a ten foot pole, even
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:28
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Dankan wrote:
Alby Davis finally got a team: Mitsubishi - Jartazi.
Damn Jartazi owns estonian license..doesnt sounds good. Yep Davis is like a plague..no one like to hire him...very suspicious CV |
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Posted on 21-03-2008 12:35
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I really thought he would be coming to a portuguese team to join the other suspicious riders...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 12:46
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p3druh wrote:
I really thought he would be coming to a portuguese team to join the other suspicious riders...
I don't think any of those teams can afford him
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Posted on 21-03-2008 13:05
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issoisso wrote:
p3druh wrote:
I really thought he would be coming to a portuguese team to join the other suspicious riders...
I don't think any of those teams can afford him
Fercase is not paying the wages of Eladio Jimenez and Francisco Mancebo... A secret sponsor is... And remember that they were the worst portuguese team last year...
I'm not saying that he would go to Fercase but maybe Benfica could find some kind of sponsor who would only pay Davis' wages... I don't think that would be that difficult to arrange with João Lagos leading the team...
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:17
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Ok Astana is now out of the tour...Let levi cry corporation seems to winning this competition:
Astana man sayed:
"We changed the team structure, we've done everything we could. The Tour de France is going to lose its value. Maybe Cadel Evans will win it this year but people are going to say 'yes he won but Levi Leipheimer was not there, Andreas Kloeden and Alberto Contador were not there."
I am saying ..after ten year's I see that 2008 tour winner is Cadel Evans..has no cycling freak I even cant remember that Astana ban. Winner of TdF is always winner of TdF and not some if syndrome.
If world: Contador wouldnt be 2007 winner If Rasmussen would end that tour.
Perreiro isnt tour winner..If Landis wouldnt take to much dope..If Ulrich and Basso wasnt banned before start..etc..etc. This not making any point.
Tour winner is tour winner |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:31
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I share your point of view, and I'll respect an almost human winner more than a super hero winner. One has more credibility than the other one, despite being possibly weaker.
Can anyone really believe that Bruyneel is a saint ? Saying "we changed the team structure" is true, but that falls short as an argument, as it was more or less changing bad for worst. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-03-2008 13:33
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It's a bit like the politicians who keep saying "I want what's best for this country." After which everyone goes "yay! this guy's great" when he actually didn't say anything at all.
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 21-03-2008 14:08
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Ok Astana is now out of the tour...Let levi cry corporation seems to winning this competition:
Astana man sayed:
"We changed the team structure, we've done everything we could. The Tour de France is going to lose its value. Maybe Cadel Evans will win it this year but people are going to say 'yes he won but Levi Leipheimer was not there, Andreas Kloeden and Alberto Contador were not there."
I am saying ..after ten year's I see that 2008 tour winner is Cadel Evans..has no cycling freak I even cant remember that Astana ban. Winner of TdF is always winner of TdF and not some if syndrome.
If world: Contador wouldnt be 2007 winner If Rasmussen would end that tour.
Perreiro isnt tour winner..If Landis wouldnt take to much dope..If Ulrich and Basso wasnt banned before start..etc..etc. This not making any point.
Tour winner is tour winner
I agree with most of this... except the part about Perriero. I think most people won't remember him as the tour winner. They'll remember Landis winning and getting stripped... but they'll have a lot of trouble coming up with Perreiro's name. Kind of unfair to the guy, but it is what it is. Not crossing the line in Paris wearing yellow takes a lot away. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-03-2008 20:17
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The first investigation of the Freiburg hospital has given a few hints of the riders implicated. Packages of doping have been delivered to what was then Klöden's friend and who's now Klöden's wife. Yet he denies to say anything about the case. Also riders such as Ullrich, Sinkewitz, etc. are involved. Two names are yet to be revealed. |
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