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Wilier
OPQS TdF squad
Alessandro Petacchi
Jan Bakelants
Mark Cavendish
Mark Renshaw
Matteo Trentin
Michal Golas
Michal Kwiatkowski
Niki Terpstra
Tony Martin

 
Riis123
I_Mayo wrote:
Kritzo wrote:
Bouhanni must be pissed.. There is no way that he is staying on FDJ.


Bouhanni got Giro, Demare gets Tour, what's so unclear about it. There's no reason to take both of these guys, especially considering that Bouhanni isn't that type of sprinter who could work in a lead-out.


There is nothing unclear or whatever about it, Bouhanni just wants to ride the Tour which is pretty simple. As a result of that he probably wont stay. As you pointed out, Bouhanni isnt the kinda guy that leads out, so how about next year come the Tour? Im pretty sure that he isnt a FDJ-rider next year.
 
Alakagom
I_Mayo wrote:
Kritzo wrote:
Bouhanni must be pissed.. There is no way that he is staying on FDJ.


Bouhanni got Giro, Demare gets Tour, what's so unclear about it. There's no reason to take both of these guys, especially considering that Bouhanni isn't that type of sprinter who could work in a lead-out.


If Bouhanni was going to the Toue the plan was to do leadouts for Demare while Bouhanni could go by himself and try in sprints. At least what Madiot said month ago.

I bet Demare hated that, if Bouhanni beats him without team support it'd be awkward and didn't want him in the team at all.
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jacobjc88
Maybe the team already accepted the fact that Bouhanni won't be driving on the team next year, and that's the reason they decided not to bring him on the Tour team. Honestly I think it's a good idea not to have him driving the Tour. I don't think it would work out with both him and Demare. I like Bouhanni as a rider, he's really agressive in the sprint + his personality is fun to follow.

Having Demare and Bouhanni would be like having Greipel and Cavendish back in the HTC Colombia days. It just won't work.
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Wilier
Lotto - Belisol TdF squad
Lars Ytting Bak
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Bart De Clercq
Tony Gallopin
André Greipel
Adam Hansen
Greg Henderson
Jürgen Roelandts
Marcel Sieberg



 
Riis123
Wilier wrote:
Lotto - Belisol TdF squad
Lars Ytting Bak
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Bart De Clercq
Tony Gallopin
André Greipel
Adam Hansen
Greg Henderson
Jürgen Roelandts
Marcel Sieberg





That reminds me of the Lotto teams in 2006-2008 that couldnt help Evans past a speedbump. Thats pretty tough for VdB.
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Lotto - Belisol TdF squad
Lars Ytting Bak
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Bart De Clercq
Tony Gallopin
André Greipel
Adam Hansen
Greg Henderson
Jürgen Roelandts
Marcel Sieberg





That reminds me of the Lotto teams in 2006-2008 that couldnt help Evans past a speedbump. Thats pretty tough for VdB.


It's a squad built around Griepel and stage wins which makes sense, VDB can go top 10 but can't win so they are just playing to there strengths
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
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Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
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David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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Ian Butler
At least De Clercq can be of help to Jurgen VDB. Also Hansen can survive some speedbumps, along with Gallopin, I reckon Smile

But Jurgen can get a top 5 on his own, if he needs to.
 
Kirchen_75
Wilier wrote:
OPQS TdF squad
Alessandro Petacchi
Jan Bakelants
Mark Cavendish
Mark Renshaw
Matteo Trentin
Michal Golas
Michal Kwiatkowski
Niki Terpstra
Tony Martin



No Steegmans, that's kinda surprising because he had some monstrous leadouts in Turkey. Very happy for Jan Grin
 
Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Lotto - Belisol TdF squad
Lars Ytting Bak
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Bart De Clercq
Tony Gallopin
André Greipel
Adam Hansen
Greg Henderson
Jürgen Roelandts
Marcel Sieberg





That reminds me of the Lotto teams in 2006-2008 that couldnt help Evans past a speedbump. Thats pretty tough for VdB.


It's a squad built around Griepel and stage wins which makes sense, VDB can go top 10 but can't win so they are just playing to there strengths


Of course, thats the odds when you are riding on a sprinter team and Im fully aware of that. He can possibly go for a 5-7 overall all by himself, but he will be completely isolated in the mountains. Like, Contador isolated
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Lotto - Belisol TdF squad
Lars Ytting Bak
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Bart De Clercq
Tony Gallopin
André Greipel
Adam Hansen
Greg Henderson
Jürgen Roelandts
Marcel Sieberg





That reminds me of the Lotto teams in 2006-2008 that couldnt help Evans past a speedbump. Thats pretty tough for VdB.


It's a squad built around Griepel and stage wins which makes sense, VDB can go top 10 but can't win so they are just playing to there strengths


Of course, thats the odds when you are riding on a sprinter team and Im fully aware of that. He can possibly go for a 5-7 overall all by himself, but he will be completely isolated in the mountains. Like, Contador isolated


How will Contador be isolated?
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
https://www.everesting.cc/hall-of-fame/
 
Avin Wargunnson
Maybe it is the new word for having a best climbing team? Isolated, hmm. Pfft
I'll be back
 
Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Lotto - Belisol TdF squad
Lars Ytting Bak
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Bart De Clercq
Tony Gallopin
André Greipel
Adam Hansen
Greg Henderson
Jürgen Roelandts
Marcel Sieberg





That reminds me of the Lotto teams in 2006-2008 that couldnt help Evans past a speedbump. Thats pretty tough for VdB.


It's a squad built around Griepel and stage wins which makes sense, VDB can go top 10 but can't win so they are just playing to there strengths


Of course, thats the odds when you are riding on a sprinter team and Im fully aware of that. He can possibly go for a 5-7 overall all by himself, but he will be completely isolated in the mountains. Like, Contador isolated


How will Contador be isolated?


Shoulda been more clear, was talking about the Dauphine Smile

Avin: I think Sky is better
 
Wumble
Personally i have big hopes for Nibali getting top 3, might even challenge Froome and Contador.
Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
 
Maddox
Riis123 wrote:
Isnt it now we are supposed to make stupid top-10s we can laugh sbout after the Tour?

1. Froome
2. Conta
3. Porte
4. Valverde
5. Nibali
6. Van Garderen
7. Rui Costa
8. Betancur
9. Fuglsang
10. Bardet

Yes, it is! So here's mine:

1: Chris Froome
2: Alberto Contador
3: Thibaut Pinot (according to Dan Frost(Sky) also)
4: Vincenzo Nibali
5: Alejandro Valverde
6: Andrew Talansky
7: Roman Kreuziger
8: Tejay Van Garderen
9: Bauke Mollema
10: Michal Kwiatkowski


Just outside the top 10 we will find riders like Romain Bardet, Rui Costa, Mikel Nieve, Pierre Rolland, Jurgen Van den Broeck, Tom Slagter, Jakob Fuglsang Joaquim Rodriguez and Richie Porte.
Edited by Maddox on 24-06-2014 12:00
 
diacos
I really hope there will be someone who can challenge Contador and Froome. Someone like Talansky, Nibali..
 
Kritzo
Going with this:

1. Contador
2. Froome
3. Nibali
4. Talansky
5. Kreuziger
6. Costa
7. Van den Broeck
8. Mollema
9. Fuglsang
10. Pinot
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Anderis
wisdow23 wrote:
Any news about Garmin squad ? Will Acevedo ride ? Would be interesting duo with Talansky.

I bet Garmin will be the very last team to announce their roster, as always, possibly just 2 or 3 days before the Tour starts.

Acevedo will most likely ride. And it appears he will be a key helper for Talansky, since Danielson, Dennis and Slagter all seemed to be pretty much off from in Tour de Suisse and Hesjedal is intended to skip TdF for Vuelta.

My guess is that their roster will look like:
Talansky, Acevedo, Danielson, Dennis, Langeveld, Millar, Navardauskas, Slagter and Vansummeren.

Other possibilities:
- Martin- how is he after Giro crash? I guess the absence in any race in June suggest he won't rather participate in TdF, but who knows. He rode very little in the spring so TdF+Vuelta combo would be possible.
- Hesjedal- if Vaughters thinks Talansky can make a big inpact on GC, then Hesjedal's plans might be changed and he may unexpectedly ride TdF just as Danielson rode Giro last year.
- Bauer- rode TdF last year and his calendar this year suggests he might be in decent form for July.
- Howes- was a top30 level at Dauphine for the first couple of days before disappearing completely for the last stages. Still that's quite a bit more than Dennis showed in TdS.
- King- apart from Acevedo and maybe Cardoso, the best Garmin's climber in TdS. Earlier in the year he said he would be targetting simillar races to Talansky, so who knows?

Other would be quite a surprise, but sometimes Garmin makes a surprising moves, like taking Navardauskas to the 2011 TdF.

Talansky, Acevedo and Millar are 99% sure IMO, with the rest, you never know.
 
vladmatiescu
1.Contador
2.Froome
3.Valverde
4.Talansky
5.Mollema
6.Nibali
7.Costa
8.Kreuziger
9.Van Garderen
10.Frank


I think that Frank will be the most surprising rider this year Smile
Also think that Horner will have a good tour but will crash or will have a very bad day
 
Jesleyh
Slagter will be in the squad certainly, going for a stage-win, according to some Dutch sources from last month. Might be outdated, but I doubt he'll miss out on the squad.
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