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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-03-2013 07:31
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Okay how about this?
UCI should make a list, a network of clean doctors. Cyclists and teams can only go see those doctors. It'd be difficult setting it up, but I think it could work... |
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 14-03-2013 13:20
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Nibali calls for ban of power meters: https://www.cyclingquotes.com/news/nib...er_meters/
Let the battle begin...
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 14-03-2013 13:56
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I'm kinda confused as to that logic. But I've never really thought of power meters impact in races.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-03-2013 14:17
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doddy13 wrote:
I'm kinda confused as to that logic. But I've never really thought of power meters impact in races.
It's hard not to if you're watching a race including Froome. The guy is literally looking at his power meter each 5 seconds, it's really irritating.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 14-03-2013 14:25
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I agree with Nibbles and while they are at it they should ban Di2 gearing
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
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| CountArach |
Posted on 14-03-2013 14:35
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Ian Butler wrote:
Okay how about this?
UCI should make a list, a network of clean doctors. Cyclists and teams can only go see those doctors. It'd be difficult setting it up, but I think it could work...
The problem being all the doctors who haven't been caught yet. If the UCI adds them to that list then they turn out to be 'dirty' then the riders who were already going to him or who went there under the advice of the UCI now have deniability regardless of what was being done - the UCI had sanctioned it after all!
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-03-2013 14:52
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I dont think this was posted before but JoaquÃm RodrÃguez is thinking about doing Giro and Vuelta instead of Tour and Vuelta.
In other news intresting participation for Critérium Internacional. Last year winner, Paris_Nice 1,2,3 and 4 2013 and Tirreno Adriatico 2 and 3.
AG2R La Mondiale: Bardet, Péraud, Gadret
Blanco Pro Cycling Team: Bos, Kelderman, Bobridge, L. L. Sánchez
BMC Racing Team: Evans, Moinard, Van Garderen
Bretagne-Seche Environnement: Koretzky, Lequatre, Vachon
Colombia: Atapuma, Pantano
Cofidis, Solutions Crédits: Coppel, Taaramäe
FDJ: Fédrigo, Bouhanni
Garmin-Sharp: Talansky, Martin
IAM Cycling: Denifl, Tschopp
RadioShack-Nissan: A. Schleck, Monfort, Klöden, Voigt
Sky ProCycling: Froome, Porte
Sojasun: Hivert, Pauriol
Team Argos-Shimano: Barguil, Geschke
Team Europcar: Rolland, Voeckler
Team La Pomme Marseille: Gonçalves
Team Saxo-Tinkoff: Contador, Rogers |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 14-03-2013 14:56
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fickman wrote:
RadioShack-Nissan: A. Schleck
Why are they still letting him race?
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 14-03-2013 14:57
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Ollfardh wrote:
fickman wrote:
RadioShack-Nissan: A. Schleck
Why are they still letting him race?
I don't know if what he does could technically be called 'racing'.
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| fickman |
Posted on 14-03-2013 15:35
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Not big news but La Vuelta a Colombia 2013 its going to start in Quito-Ecuador. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 14-03-2013 17:31
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Always a good race but that looks like a cracking line up
Edit: Criterium International that is
Edited by Strydz on 14-03-2013 17:33
Hells 500 Crew and 6 x Everester
Don Rd Launching Place
Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
William Rd The Patch
David Hill Rd Monbulk
Lakeside Drive Emerald
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 14-03-2013 21:10
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 Tour De Suisse 2013
Edited by Alakagom on 14-03-2013 21:15
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-03-2013 21:29
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Ian Butler wrote:
Okay how about this?
UCI should make a list, a network of clean doctors. Cyclists and teams can only go see those doctors. It'd be difficult setting it up, but I think it could work...
But sportsmen need to see a doctor like a dozen of times per year, even if they're not specially ill or sick, etc. And contrary to team sports, cyclists don't necessarily have to live near their employer's home town, so it'd be difficult.
What UCI should do is award licences to doctors, but those on the list in the article shouldn't get it. Riders or teams caught working with non licensed doctors, be they haematologist or gynaecologist only conducting training sessions or writing training plans, should be banned for some time and heavily fined, and the doctor too.
Of course my example with a haematologist and a gynaecologist is so ridiculous that things like that will never happen in cycling. Oh wait...
Fun thing is that Nibbles himself is using his power meter during competitions.
I'm all in favour of that ban (I mean the display part, not the registering one) during competitions, but I wouldn't see a reason why they should be banned during training, which seems to be Nibali's stance. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-03-2013 21:58
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Aquarius wrote:
Interesting reading :
https://www.cyclis...the-house/
Excerpt :
Emilio Magni – Liquigas Cannondale
Emilio started out as Team Doctor at Mercatone Uno, where he was hired specifically to look after team leader Marco Pantani. In 2001 he moved to Fassa Bortolo where, in 2001, he was the subject of an investigation into doping practices. He was responsible for doping the likes the of Bartoli, Casa Grande and Rumsas. Currently providing medical advice for young talent Peter Sagan.
That list is missing a key name: Fabio Bartolucci. Busted in the infamous 2001 San Remo doping raids. Recently hired by Team Sky to replace Dr. Leinders.
And just as with Leinders, he's not listed on the team site. All the other team doctors are. Smooth.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-03-2013 22:04
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issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Interesting reading :
https://www.cyclis...the-house/
Excerpt :
Emilio Magni – Liquigas Cannondale
Emilio started out as Team Doctor at Mercatone Uno, where he was hired specifically to look after team leader Marco Pantani. In 2001 he moved to Fassa Bortolo where, in 2001, he was the subject of an investigation into doping practices. He was responsible for doping the likes the of Bartoli, Casa Grande and Rumsas. Currently providing medical advice for young talent Peter Sagan.
That list is missing a key name: Fabio Bartolucci. Busted in the infamous 2001 San Remo doping raids. Recently hired by Team Sky to replace Dr. Leinders.
And just as with Leinders, he's not listed on the team site. All the other team doctors are. Smooth.
They can't include Bartolucci, because otherwise the whole point of the article, which is "look, Sky commited a mistake, but what about the other teams, eh? EH?" would be void.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-03-2013 22:27
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Look, there's no need to look to deep into it. Cycling's a simple sport. Riders pedal around for 200kms and at the end the team that has Ibarguren as doctor wins. Simple.
1998, Festina dominates. Ibarguren. He leaves, none of them do shit ever again (Virenque, Dufaux, Brochard, etc. etc.)
1999 he's at Lotto. Tchmil at 36 years old goes from average pack fodder to classics superstar.
2000 he moves to to Banesto. The time when their army of climbers comes out of nowhere. Osa, Menchov, Piepoli, and above all that ridiculous 2001 season by Juan DomÃnguez DomÃnguez, to this day known by cycling fans as "who?"
2002 he moves to Saeco. Oh look, Simoni who at 29 years old was a fiasco is suddenly dominating the Giro year after year. Then 22 year old Cunego has an outrageous season winning the Giro plus Lombardia and a bunch of other stuff. Of course when Ibarguren left they immediately started fading. Simoni had a bad 2005, Cunego was never the same again...
2005 he goes to Euskaltel. Oh look, González who's done nothing for years since he got in deep in the cocaine suddenly wins the Tour de Suisse. Meanwhile one of their painfully average domestiques wins the Dauphiné. Yeah, nothing suspicious there. I have to wonder what insanity Mayo would've done if he hadn't spent the year struggling with severe knee injury.
2006 he goes to Saunier. In his years there Piepoli reached his peak, Cobo became a star, Simoni rose to a second peak at age 36 or so to be the 2nd strongest in the Giro behind alien Basso, Riccò becomes a star...until they were busted for CERA at the Tour of course.
And of course the silliest one of all, 56kg Marchante became not only one hell of a climber, but a time triallist too. MAGIC!
Remind me again what Marchante did afterwards? Oh right, nothing.
He even managed to bring Mayo back from the dead with good performances again despite still having an injured knee....until the positive of course.
2010 takes a break, 2011 goes to Lotto. Can you think of any Lotto riders who had a surreal 2011 and sucked afterwards? Gee, what was the name of that belgian guy?
2012 goes to quickstep. Boonen was considered past it and as good as gone, the team as a whole had sucked in the classics for a while....but lo and behold, Boonen returns mightier than ever in the cobbles with several wins topped by a ride for the ages in Roubaix. Even Niki fucking Terpstra the most obvious dutch doper since Johny testosterone Hoogerland won a world tour classic.
The guy has a magic touch, he does. That's undeniable.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 14-03-2013 22:41
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issoisso wrote:
Can you think of any Lotto riders who had a surreal 2011 and sucked afterwards? Gee, what was the name of that belgian guy?
Well, I think many riders would give a leg for what he won in 2012. The rest of the season was subpar indeed, but I guess it takes time to get used to a new fuel. 
Oh, and Fuentes and Ferrari, among others, aren't happy with that very Linekerian first sentence.
Edited by kumazan on 14-03-2013 22:43
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-03-2013 22:56
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kumazan wrote:
Well, I think many riders would give a leg for what he won in 2012. The rest of the season was subpar indeed, but I guess it takes time to get used to a new fuel.
Alright, then let's go with an example who stayed on the team for 2012.
Vanendert was nearly KOM at the Tour, won a major mountain stage and was a near 2nd in another. Take away the time he lost on purpose in flat stages and babysitting Gilbert and he'd finish 6th overall.
All this without winning time in any breaks.
How'd his mountain climbing go in 2012 without Ibarguren? Oh right.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 15-03-2013 06:27
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Wasn't he also working with Astana during their amazing Ardennes season last year?
And also, does anyone know where he is this year? Still at Quickstep, or another team?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 15-03-2013 06:48
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fickman wrote:
I dont think this was posted before but JoaquÃm RodrÃguez is thinking about doing Giro and Vuelta instead of Tour and Vuelta.
In other news intresting participation for Critérium Internacional. Last year winner, Paris_Nice 1,2,3 and 4 2013 and Tirreno Adriatico 2 and 3.
AG2R La Mondiale: Bardet, Péraud, Gadret
Blanco Pro Cycling Team: Bos, Kelderman, Bobridge, L. L. Sánchez
BMC Racing Team: Evans, Moinard, Van Garderen
Bretagne-Seche Environnement: Koretzky, Lequatre, Vachon
Colombia: Atapuma, Pantano
Cofidis, Solutions Crédits: Coppel, Taaramäe
FDJ: Fédrigo, Bouhanni
Garmin-Sharp: Talansky, Martin
IAM Cycling: Denifl, Tschopp
RadioShack-Nissan: A. Schleck, Monfort, Klöden, Voigt
Sky ProCycling: Froome, Porte
Sojasun: Hivert, Pauriol
Team Argos-Shimano: Barguil, Geschke
Team Europcar: Rolland, Voeckler
Team La Pomme Marseille: Gonçalves
Team Saxo-Tinkoff: Contador, Rogers
Froome and Porte, does really anybody want to see this? 
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