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| zutcorp |
Posted on 25-08-2007 19:30
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That what I like most about this season. clearer goals. Id hope Crommy et al. has the energy to expand on that next year. Id have loved more goals.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 26-08-2007 02:07
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zutcorp wrote:
I didnt counter it because I had misunderstood the steal rules a little, in that i thought 1 steal was worth several bids on the same rider.
Now I know that each bid counts as a steal attemp, so i would just have countered.
Its not as if I dont have the money, and he is rather great, and he id going to be a pain to replace!
The worst part: I dont really like mr Menchov!
i'm now confused if i attempt to steal Lance Armstrong for example, and I offer 300,000, but his owner blocks it by offering a higher salary, that counts as one steal attempt, then if I offer 400,000 does this count as my second and final attempt, or as part of the first attempt?
Edited by dave92 on 26-08-2007 02:09
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| dave92 |
Posted on 26-08-2007 02:18
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zutcorp wrote:
Sigh... Am i the only one who cant wait till monday for all the chaos to start up again?
Im endlessly planning my new riders, and I have made a prioritized list of 15-20 tiders I want, and more or less what im prepared to pay for them. So get ready for a flurry of bids when we reopen :-)
In other news, If anyone want to sell any hilly og MO riders. Or if they are danish and they dont suck, I want them too :-D
I too have planned endlessly, with many more than 15-20 riders, so that i have some for any price range, and some who's stats are just decent, but i am fond of to fill out my roster as domestiques for 30,000.
You heard it hear first, I will go in a controlled and carefully budgeted kamikazee plan.
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| zutcorp |
Posted on 26-08-2007 07:26
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dave92 wrote:
zutcorp wrote:
I didnt counter it because I had misunderstood the steal rules a little, in that i thought 1 steal was worth several bids on the same rider.
Now I know that each bid counts as a steal attemp, so i would just have countered.
Its not as if I dont have the money, and he is rather great, and he id going to be a pain to replace!
The worst part: I dont really like mr Menchov!
i'm now confused if i attempt to steal Lance Armstrong for example, and I offer 300,000, but his owner blocks it by offering a higher salary, that counts as one steal attempt, then if I offer 400,000 does this count as my second and final attempt, or as part of the first attempt?
I think so.
It would be the only fair way to implement the rule...
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| Balaverde |
Posted on 26-08-2007 10:16
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zutcorp wrote:
That what I like most about this season. clearer goals. Id hope Crommy et al. has the energy to expand on that next year. Id have loved more goals.
Sure - they are a brilliant extension and they do spice up the transfers a bit too.
I think the prizes that are paid for achieving them are a bit too low, however. As you receive 100 k for it - the prize for a domestique...
It propably has to do with the transfer market running wild, but I still think it's a shame. 100,000 euro isn't that much a deal, really. |
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| zutcorp |
Posted on 26-08-2007 12:01
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the more I think about it, the more the prices are reasoable.
Most teamsneed around 5-7 riders and have 2-3 million to do it with. That should be around 4-500.000 pr rider to spend on them. And the very best could end up costing double that!
Which is Ok i my book, since those high wages isnt only wages, they are also sign on fees etc. So if I sign a rider for 600k now I only expect to pay him like 300k next year...
Edited by zutcorp on 26-08-2007 12:02
Manager of Protour champions 2008, Carlsberg Cycling!! (wow is it that long ago I was in the management game?)
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| Balaverde |
Posted on 26-08-2007 12:05
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Sure... But I was talking about the prizes from achieving sponsor goals? |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-08-2007 17:49
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So you want more money available, meaning more transfer chaos?
Dave, the rule is:
Each team can only attempt to steal 2 riders from different teams - this is to prevent absolute chaos ensuing
If your steal on a rider is blocked, you may increase your offer and it will not be a new attempt as the crucial part of the rule is that you are limited to 2 riders - its an unlimited amount of attempts on that rider though.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 26-08-2007 18:08
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ok, thanks SN, thats what i thought at first, but Zutcorp's post confused me
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| Crommy |
Posted on 27-08-2007 15:52
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Fonz wrote:
I note that you show me with 2 Steal attempts left, but I unsuccessfully went for Jelle Vanendert and should have only 1.
Thanks for your honesty. I must have missed that one
We appreciate honesty so much, you will still have 2 steal atempts as a reward 
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 27-08-2007 16:24
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well in that case i have 0 steal attempts left for both my teams
i don't know whether it will work this way though as you already know this
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-08-2007 17:45
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Am I the only one wishing I could just skip 4 hours and start the transfers?
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| mrlol |
Posted on 27-08-2007 18:17
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Am I the only one wishing I could just skip 4 hours and start the transfers?
I'm wishing that too!!!
because there's no way I can be on between 21.30 and around 17.00 tomorrow 
I guess I'll just have to be patient and read through the 1000 new posts tomorrow... unfortunatly I dont have much time tomorrow.... just hope I don't miss any rider.... |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-08-2007 18:20
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Well the 48 hour rule won't claim its first deals until Wednesday.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 27-08-2007 18:24
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Well the 48 hour rule won't claim its first deals until Wednesday.
wednesday... I hope after 15.00... I hate school.. |
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 27-08-2007 18:37
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i would have liked it to have started earlier today as i'm not sure i am able to be on tonight as i am off out and then i don't know whether i will be bothered to come on later, hopefully i will but i'm not sure.
but i doubt crommy will start it early as there will be people that will complain about things
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-08-2007 18:38
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Well we ended it last time at 21:30GMT so it is soo much more convenient to start it at 21:30GMT
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| mrlol |
Posted on 27-08-2007 18:54
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Well we ended it last time at 21:30GMT so it is soo much more convenient to start it at 21:30GMT
yep... it's just nobody likes it, I doubt if crommy can even wait himself |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 27-08-2007 19:32
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Well Crommy is still away til tomorrow, I'm going to be the one restarting the transfers.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-08-2007 19:33
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Well Crommy is still away til tomorrow, I'm going to be the one restarting the transfers.
huh? Crommy was in the "Users Online" column half and hour ago or so
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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