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Tour de France 2010: Stage 1 Rotterdam - Bruxelles
ponka00
Deadpool wrote:
Great finish.

My thoughts:

1) Crash was not Cav's fault. He got pushed out to the left around the corner by another rider coming through, but on a right turn it is the responsibility of the rider on the left to account for it and move over for him as he did for the guy coming on his (Cav) inside.

2) Farrar got really unlucky, he didn't crash, but the Ag2r rider's bike got caught in his and he dragged it.

3) Good sprint by Pettachi, not very encouraging finish by Hushovd.


It was entirely Cavendish's fault. There is no one on his right when he goes into the corner and he misses the line completely. He just continues on in a straight line and drags the other riders with him.
 
jph27
I don't care whose fault it was, but it was a cracking sprint from Petacchi. Smile
 
Waghlon
KenL wrote:
First time I saw it I thought it was 2 Cervélo riders but versus (Sherwin, not exactly reliable, seems to believe it is Cav). The shoulder barge push also looks Cavendishesc (new word)? I'll wait to condemn the barge around the corner until they say who it was.


Maybe i was horribly distracted, but i was under the impression that Jeremy Hunt was responsible for dragging Cav out in front of Freire. I may have to watch that again...
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SportingNonsense
From looking at: https://video.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/to...ideo.shtml (Thanks to BouBBox)

At the turn, Im fairly sure its Cavendish and a Lampre rider who clash. There does seem to be a rider coming up on the inside of Cavendish, so Cavendish probably looked to give a bit more room, came into contact with the Lampre rider and lost control.

Edit: Although actually - Cavendish remains pretty much on the same line until veering over out of control. The Lampre rider if anything, was trying to move in on Cavendish.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 04-07-2010 17:13
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valverde321
See it was only common courtesy.
 
Kami
Imo, i don't think that would have hindered him and make him move away. Another sprinter might have, but i don't think Cav would move away for anyone. Anyways, first he just touched shoulders, but then he goes at it with his full weight and then takes his corner to get away, but he had bad luck that Freire hit his wheel. I do think that was Cav's fault.
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SportingNonsense
Focusing solely on the Lampre rider and Cavendish.

To me, it looks like they were both aiming for Renshaw's wheel. Cavendish taking an 'arc' path through the corner that will move him out wide, the Lampre rider less so - making a collision of some sort inevitable.
The crash may not have been inevitable, but a sprinter's instinct if someone moves into you is to give a nudge back - it was after all the Lampre rider who was trying to take Cavendish's place - but that coinciding with the tight turn, led to a loss of control.

From what I can see, Freire and Hunt were innocent bystanders.
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doddy13
Also, the jersey Merckx was presented with today was seriously cool and a nice idea. Congrats ASO for that.

Anyone got a picture of it?
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issoisso
After watching the replay of the first crash a few times:

Sh** happens. Someone is to blame, but it's one of those honest mistakes.

On to tomorrow's stage. Anything could happen. Nice stage. Wish it was today Sad
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Kami
Going to watch tommorow. Smile hope i can get anywhere near the last 2 hills, but i highly doubt it. Nontheless, the Tour Caravan is awesome everywhere (unless your on the downhill, like i was with my parents 4 years ago Sad)
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SportingNonsense
Aha, I see how Hunt got involved now. He did take Cavendish down, but you cant really say it was his fault, after Cavendish and the Lampre rider came in front of him. That was just bad luck.
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issoisso
An interesting aside:

Evans once again finished without teammates. On a flat stage Pfft
I wonder if they've found their way out of Holland yet.
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jph27
SportingNonsense wrote:
Aha, I see how Hunt got involved now. He did take Cavendish down, but you cant really say it was his fault, after Cavendish and the Lampre rider came in front of him. That was just bad luck.


If it was just bad luck, then Cavendish seems to have had a cursed season.
 
doddy13
issoisso wrote:
After watching the replay of the first crash a few times:

Sh** happens. Someone is to blame, but it's one of those honest mistakes.

On to tomorrow's stage. Anything could happen. Nice stage. Wish it was today Sad


*Pats on back* Everything will be OK and eventually those mountain thingys will come.
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issoisso
doddy13 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
After watching the replay of the first crash a few times:

Sh** happens. Someone is to blame, but it's one of those honest mistakes.

On to tomorrow's stage. Anything could happen. Nice stage. Wish it was today Sad


*Pats on back* Everything will be OK and eventually those mountain thingys will come.


Two more weeks before I get a one-week holiday Sad
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SportingNonsense
jph27 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Aha, I see how Hunt got involved now. He did take Cavendish down, but you cant really say it was his fault, after Cavendish and the Lampre rider came in front of him. That was just bad luck.


If it was just bad luck, then Cavendish seems to have had a cursed season.


Bad luck for Hunt, yes. Cavendish, well his season proper started today, so its best to reserve judgement on it's nature for a few weeks at least.

Ironically though, Hunt may have helped out Hushovd greatly Green jersey wise. I doubt Cavendish would have won the sprint after that turn, but had he kept up right, he could have gathered a few green jersey points.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 04-07-2010 17:32
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ruben
I still hope they can deport Cavendish back to the Isle of Man and let him stay there
 
jph27
ruben wrote:
I still hope they can deport Cavendish back to the Isle of Man and let him stay there


I sometimes hope we could deport you to somewhere with no intenet access. Wink
Edited by jph27 on 04-07-2010 17:44
 
SportingNonsense
jph27 wrote:
ruben wrote:
I still hope they can deport Cavendish back to the Isle of Man and let him stay there


I sometimes hope would could deport you to somewhere with no intenet access. Wink


Exactly what I was thinking (Except the sometimes bit Pfft )
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ruben
Who are you? I don't care about your opinion. If it bothers you so much don't react on it.

But please keep biting :lol: it makes for more amusement

You guys are easier to ignite then I am with dutch riders...
Edited by ruben on 04-07-2010 17:43
 
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