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| ruben |
Posted on 12-09-2009 16:48
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Sanchez is still close with regards to the final TT, so is Evans.
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| rovven7 |
Posted on 12-09-2009 16:50
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issoisso wrote:
Cunego continues to be unable to beat teammates on GT GCs
Tiralongo is quite a bit ahead of him
I hope that's a joke. It's interesting how logic fails on you guys when you're talking about riders you dislike. Cunego gave up. There was no point in riding himself to the limit for 20 km, since after tomorrow's mountain stage he'll probably leave the Vuelta. He just rode an easy pace all the way to the finish. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-09-2009 16:54
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rovven7 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Cunego continues to be unable to beat teammates on GT GCs
Tiralongo is quite a bit ahead of him
I hope that's a joke. It's interesting how logic fails on you guys when you're talking about riders you dislike. Cunego gave up. There was no point in riding himself to the limit for 20 km, since after tomorrow's mountain stage he'll probably leave the Vuelta. He just rode an easy pace all the way to the finish.
Right. of course. You've proven many times that you're a blind Cunego fan, and this is just another occasion. Instead of replying you disagree, you immediately conclude that I must dislike Cunego.
Then you proceed to present the "fact" that Cunego gave up. Really? He gave up? Wow. It's amazing how you can be inside Cunego's mind and know what he thinks.
Blind fanboys. jesus christ 
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| ruben |
Posted on 12-09-2009 16:57
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I, as jesus christ fan, think you should not use his name so lightly isso 
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Posted on 12-09-2009 17:03
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issoisso wrote:
rovven7 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Cunego continues to be unable to beat teammates on GT GCs
Tiralongo is quite a bit ahead of him
I hope that's a joke. It's interesting how logic fails on you guys when you're talking about riders you dislike. Cunego gave up. There was no point in riding himself to the limit for 20 km, since after tomorrow's mountain stage he'll probably leave the Vuelta. He just rode an easy pace all the way to the finish.
Right. of course. You've proven many times that you're a blind Cunego fan, and this is just another occasion. Instead of replying you disagree, you immediately conclude that I must dislike Cunego.
Then you proceed to present the "fact" that Cunego gave up. Really? He gave up? Wow. It's amazing how you can be inside Cunego's mind and know what he thinks.
Blind fanboys. jesus christ
No I don't consider myself a fan. And I've always judged Damiano objectively. If he'd entered the Vuelta with the same form as Giro, I would've agreed with you. But after seeing all these stage where he was up there with the best, today he's even worse then Tiralongo, and knowing he said he's here just to prepare for the Vuelta, get some stage wins, and retire after the mountain, you think he was dropped because of him not being able to stay with them? If you were Cunego, If you were Lampre's DS, would you do anything else than climb an easy pace?
I know it must have hurt you to see Cunego attack on Alto de Aitana after saying "Wow, Cunego is still there". And no, I'm not talking about you disliking Cunego, I'm talking about your ego. |
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| Roman |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:05
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Isso: 84. CUNEGO Damiano ITA LAM +28:14 
This isn't "Cunego"
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| niconico |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:10
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rovven7 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
rovven7 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Cunego continues to be unable to beat teammates on GT GCs
Tiralongo is quite a bit ahead of him
I hope that's a joke. It's interesting how logic fails on you guys when you're talking about riders you dislike. Cunego gave up. There was no point in riding himself to the limit for 20 km, since after tomorrow's mountain stage he'll probably leave the Vuelta. He just rode an easy pace all the way to the finish.
Right. of course. You've proven many times that you're a blind Cunego fan, and this is just another occasion. Instead of replying you disagree, you immediately conclude that I must dislike Cunego.
Then you proceed to present the "fact" that Cunego gave up. Really? He gave up? Wow. It's amazing how you can be inside Cunego's mind and know what he thinks.
Blind fanboys. jesus christ
No I don't consider myself a fan. And I've always judged Damiano objectively. If he'd entered the Vuelta with the same form as Giro, I would've agreed with you. But after seeing all these stage where he was up there with the best, today he's even worse then Tiralongo, and knowing he said he's here just to prepare for the Vuelta, get some stage wins, and retire after the mountain, you think he was dropped because of him not being able to stay with them? If you were Cunego, If you were Lampre's DS, would you do anything else than climb an easy pace?
I know it must have hurt you to see Cunego attack on Alto de Aitana after saying "Wow, Cunego is still there". And no, I'm not talking about you disliking Cunego, I'm talking about your ego.
The following is not directed at rovven in particular.
Okay guys go ahead and crown him a future GT legend (again!), you're just gonna wind up dissapointed.
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| ruben |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:14
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Roman wrote:
Isso: 84. CUNEGO Damiano ITA LAM +28:14
This isn't "Cunego" In fact, it's Cunego's secret twin brother, who isn't as good.
The real Cunego is now preparing for the worlds in Mexico... or Italy, it's all the same anyway |
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| rovven7 |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:15
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I never ever said Cunego's amazing on climbs. I haven't seen the Giro 2004, I'm only a fan of him since 2005, and the only thing I've seen about Giro 2004 are the clips on youtube.
The discussion between me and isso was this: He always said Cunego sucks on higher mountains, I said the results he had in Tour 2008 and Giro 2009 were because of form, not ability. I never said he's superman, I just said IF he's able to get himself in top shape, he's good enough for top 5 in Giro and Vuelta, and top 10 in le Tour (even Top 5, with a bit of luck). This Vuelta proves my point. If you're willing to continue to judge Cunego upon what he did in the last GTs he raced, then you're blind, not me. |
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| niconico |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:16
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ruben wrote:
Roman wrote:
Isso: 84. CUNEGO Damiano ITA LAM +28:14
This isn't "Cunego" In fact, it's Cunego's secret twin brother, who isn't as good.
The real Cunego is now preparing for the worlds in Mexico... or Italy, it's all the same anyway
Is that some kind of secret message. Hmmm...me wonders
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:26
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rovven7 wrote:
No I don't consider myself a fan. And I've always judged Damiano objectively.
rovven7 wrote:
I never ever said Cunego's amazing on climbs. I haven't seen the Giro 2004, I'm only a fan of him since 2005
When you keep lying and lying and twisting and turning to say whatever suits you, you end up contradicting yourself in pretty big ways.
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I know it must have hurt you to see Cunego attack on Alto de Aitana after saying "Wow, Cunego is still there".
Yes, it hurts me a lot. He murdered my family.
What are you? twelve? How would it "hurt" me? You Cunego fans are deranged. I said the same of Danielson and Tiralongo, but you're not complaining about that, because they're not your precious idols
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And no, I'm not talking about you disliking Cunego, I'm talking about your ego.
Yeah, I have a huge ego. It's so huge it even talks to me. It's telling me "You da man".
rovven7 wrote:
The discussion between me and isso was this: He always said Cunego sucks on higher mountains, I said the results he had in Tour 2008 and Giro 2009 were because of form, not ability.
You're implying I said they were because of ability, which I never did.
Edited by issoisso on 12-09-2009 17:28
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| rovven7 |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:36
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I'm a fan because you consider myself a fan and I know no other words for liking him. I just don't consider myself a fan, generally speaking. I love certain artists and that's all. I knew you would say something about this, and although I know you're smart enough to understand my point, you still attacked me.
I already said it didn't hurt you, but your ego. I know what kind of ego you have. We all do, since you're trying desperately to prove you're right.
I'm assuming the mocking after I'll say this. I surf this site daily, but the only reason I'll lower my standards to fight on a forum was Cunego. There's no point in fighting on a forum since there's so much cultural variety, so many persons trying to be someone on a forum. I don't.
I love Cunego, I'm a fan, as you describe me, I don't consider myself one. This Cunego is Giro 2006, Giro 2007 Cunego, the normal Cunego. You think he's not. That's ok. You're entitled to your own opinion. Just try not to offend someone by explaining yours. Although my opinion is different then yours, I never offended you by trying to prove my point. Since you've crossed that barrier, this is where I'll stop. You can think whatever you want. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:43
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rovven7 wrote:
I'm a fan because you consider myself a fan and I know no other words for liking him. I just don't consider myself a fan, generally speaking. I love certain artists and that's all. I knew you would say something about this, and although I know you're smart enough to understand my point, you still attacked me.
So you say you're not a fan, but instead you're a fan. And I'm supposed to understand something?
I well and truly have no idea what you mean. But congratulations for playing the victim again.
Because I'm not attacking you. I'm just attacking you. What? can't you tell the difference? Well, neither can I.
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I already said it didn't hurt you, but your ego. I know what kind of ego you have. We all do, since you're trying desperately to prove you're right.
So a blind fan yells at me, and because I don't just sit there saying "thank you sir, please throw more nonsensical insults at me, as I find them refreshing", I have a large ego?
That's about the worst logic I've seen lately.
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I love Cunego, I'm a fan, as you describe me, I don't consider myself one.
Again, this makes no sense, yet you're yelling at me for not understanding you 
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This Cunego is Giro 2006, Giro 2007 Cunego, the normal Cunego. You think he's not. That's ok. You're entitled to your own opinion. Just try not to offend someone by explaining yours. Although my opinion is different then yours, I never offended you by trying to prove my point. Since you've crossed that barrier, this is where I'll stop. You can think whatever you want.
The problem is that's a big lie. You did offend me. If you just posted an opinion, that would be fine. But instead you attacked me out of nowhere. You insulted me personally. And now you're saying I was the one who insulted you and that we should all just shut up and respect others' opinions?
And now you're playing the victim? That pisses me off.
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| Deda |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:47
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and opinions are, as we all know it, like assholes..
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord will delete my browser history.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 12-09-2009 17:50
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Deda wrote:
and opinions are, as we all know it, like assholes..
Everyone has one shouting at them every day? 
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Posted on 12-09-2009 17:51
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everybody has one, and all the others are full of crap
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord will delete my browser history.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 12-09-2009 18:03
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Listen Isso, your opinion is different from mine, so obviously you must be an asshole
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Posted on 12-09-2009 18:06
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Waghlon wrote:
Listen Isso, your opinion is different from mine, so obviously you must be an asshole
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I disagree that you agree isso is an asshole, so that makes you an asshole.
or something..
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 12-09-2009 18:12
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Danielson has to have the worst immune system. He came down with another virus... There goes his chance.
But Garmin has been doing so awesome. Sutton in Britain now  |
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Posted on 12-09-2009 18:28
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chrica04 wrote:
Danielson has to have the worst immune system. He came down with another virus... There goes his chance.
But Garmin has been doing so awesome. Sutton in Britain now
Dont you destroy my happiness
I was happy to see him droped today after he's yesterday talk that..stage was booring for him and climb was not steep enough. |
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