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jph27
I was thinking about the loan cap and how it could be changed. Was going to suggest three points:

1. The cap only counts loaned out riders. It's really rare to see a leadership level rider loaned in so surely there's no need for the cap on saved wages for a rider you're mainly getting xp for, not performances from?

2. Some sort of exception for PT teams loaning out Level 1 riders, to make it easier to be get talents xp without crippling your team. Personally would completely remove them from the cap, but exemption slots or only a percentage of the wage hitting the cap would also work.

3. Same as 2, but for CT and PCT teams with Level 4 riders.

What do people think?

 
roturn
1. There are some riders, who perform well. Examples are Skujins or also Guardini this season. I also had Hermans in my first season, who was one of my best back then.
Also Pozzato was loaned out 1-2 seasons ago.
Edited by roturn on 11-01-2015 21:57
 
SportingNonsense
1. Lots of riders loaned in for XP are still very useful to a team, especially the Level 3/4s that go to PT. A lot of PT teams already get a bargain in that respect, so reducing the limit on that would not really help.

2. The 'problem' you raise is exactly the reason that limit is there. PT teams already get the best riders in general, it is good for the game that they are at a disadvantage if they want to get the next generation of best talents too. If you want to be greedy and sweep up all the talents, it comes at a price.

3. I don't think that is needed either.

In short: You want to remove some of the challenges of developing riders, while I like that it has now become harder to do.
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maxime86
Not sure if this is the right place, but so I was wondering who is at risk from being removed from the man game due to inactivity. I was wondering if there was a certain amount of posts needed in your hq or something

just wondering
 
Heine
maxime86 wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place, but so I was wondering who is at risk from being removed from the man game due to inactivity. I was wondering if there was a certain amount of posts needed in your hq or something

just wondering


I think there is no set requirement when it comes to posting in HQ. The most important is pariticipating in race threads. For me it is a minimum to contribute in your "own" races. That is where the life of the game is
 
The Rider
Heine wrote:
maxime86 wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place, but so I was wondering who is at risk from being removed from the man game due to inactivity. I was wondering if there was a certain amount of posts needed in your hq or something

just wondering


I think there is no set requirement when it comes to posting in HQ. The most important is pariticipating in race threads. For me it is a minimum to contribute in your "own" races. That is where the life of the game is


I second this.

Maxime - Having had a quick look you haven't even had 12 Man Game related posts since August, imo, needless to say you will be removed if you don't return to your activity levels from the start of the season.
 
SportingNonsense
Activity will be judged over the whole season. If somebody showed little to no interest for notable chunks of the season, and there are enough good applications, then we are more likely to give a new person a chance. Increasing activity only at the end of the season isn't going to fool the judgement.
Edited by SportingNonsense on 27-01-2015 23:39
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maxime86
Ugh, I guess I'm gonna have to post pretty constantly for the rest of the season considering my absence during the doldrums of the season

Challenge accepted, hopefully it won't go to waste
Edited by maxime86 on 28-01-2015 15:26
 
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Avin Wargunnson
Anyway, you should not feel obliged to post in fear of loosing the team. You should want to post beacuse you like being in the game and want to appreciate the hard work of people bringing it to us.

Communication between managers and talks in race threads are imo the roots of the whole game and place where the fun happens. Smile
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SportingNonsense
maxime86 wrote:
Ugh, I guess I'm gonna have to post pretty constantly for the rest of the season considering my absence during the doldrums of thaccepted

Challenge accepted, hopefully it won't go to waste


The what?

Agree with Avin, posting regularly should be something you want to do if like being in the game, not something you think of as "ugh"
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Heine
SN asked the question I thought about when reading maxime's post :-p
 
maxime86
SportingNonsense wrote:
maxime86 wrote:
Ugh, I guess I'm gonna have to post pretty constantly for the rest of the season considering my absence during the doldrums of thaccepted

Challenge accepted, hopefully it won't go to waste


The what?

Agree with Avin, posting regularly should be something you want to do if like being in the game, not something you think of as "ugh"


sorry edited the post

no what i mean is that i enjoy the game and enjoy posting about it, im saying "ugh" because i regret not having posted during a part of the season, not cause i have to post
 
Scorchio
I know this is an old chestnut, but has any decision been made at MG HQ on the version of PCM to be used for the 2015 season? I ask with a number of thoughts in mind:

* Some folks are already initiating work on new jersey designs, equipment, etc.
* I personally am concerned regarding the various reporting in thread on this site of the ineptitude of PCM AI in 2014 carrying over to 2015 in terms of the bunch not chasing early or mid stage breaks unless instigated by the player (hence not in MG universe). I don't have PCM14 (as yet) - anyone care to comment, have patches resolved, is it more or less prevalent?
* If the above is a major concern is their any potential that MG might move back to a more 'stable' or 'reliable AI' version (I seem to recall some previous debate on this, but can't currently find the thread).

Discussion / confirmation welcome!
Manager of ISA - Hexacta in the MG
 
SportingNonsense
It will be PCM14, though I can't comment on the quality of the AI there as pretty much all of my PCM playing time goes to the ManGame.

Every PCM we've used has had it's issues, and the advantage is that PCM has at least got increasingly easy to modify, to create the DB and stages for. If we ever hit a PCM with few faults, then there can be a serious discussion on remaining for more than a season. Til then I think it adds an interesting dynamic to be using a different game each season.
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TheManxMissile
PCM14 isn't perfect. Breakaways are still somewhat overpowered and the peloton still goes full retard and just gives up the chase. But ACC is nerfed and RES impacts again.
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Scorchio
Thanks for the clarification SN, and what you say makes good sense.

TMM - also thanks for providing some insight.

Guess we are all in the same boat when it comes to the vagaries of the AI; might be utopian, but if PCM AI ever evolves to a sensible 'sweet-spot' I would endorse that we stick with it.This season hasn't been terrible AI, but there have been some abberations that I am sure we all recall! Thankfully races like the GT's seem to cope just fine.
Manager of ISA - Hexacta in the MG
 
SotD
Scorchio wrote:
Thanks for the clarification SN, and what you say makes good sense.

TMM - also thanks for providing some insight.

Guess we are all in the same boat when it comes to the vagaries of the AI; might be utopian, but if PCM AI ever evolves to a sensible 'sweet-spot' I would endorse that we stick with it.This season hasn't been terrible AI, but there have been some abberations that I am sure we all recall! Thankfully races like the GT's seem to cope just fine.


Despite that, the Vuelta was won by Alarcon an to a lesser degree Andy Schleck win the TdF ahead of Pluchkin and Spilak and miles ahead of Madrazo. Alarcon won in Colombia aswell, which kinda resembles a GT.

Imo the long one day races are the least affected.
Edited by SotD on 19-02-2015 05:59
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Avin Wargunnson
Well, we already have sensible sweet spot in PCM11, but as i understand that is not viable for many people, we have to continue search every year. Game is so fucked up every year now, it is not even funny, it will need drastic changes to some future editions to come even close to older installments.

Those that are not familiar with PCM14, be ready for some more breakaway frustration. 100 people peloton is having problems to catch 3-4 escapees even when chasing for 60kms some 5 minutes gap. (when han player is not interfering much, it is even worse).
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 19-02-2015 06:17
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roturn
Going backwards would have bigger issues though.
Many stages that are used in the MG are not compatible with PCM11. So with the higher amount of teams since then and more races because of this, PCM11 can`t really be an option.
 
Avin Wargunnson
That is why i wrote that i understand why it is not a viable option. Smile

But when he speak about last PCM that had any value, i thought i would mention the one i see as the one, so PCM11 (we also agreed on that with Shonak when he visited cross WC at Tabor). Grin
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