|
2013 UCI Road World Championships Firenze
|
| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:00
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
Big congrats to Costa and all his fans, congratulations Portugal. I think victory is even better, when it was against spaniards, who just totally cocked it up. Well, Valverde did, Purito made everything perfect...i dont like this style of win much, but it was smart indeed.
Overall not the best of WCs from my point of view, drama for last 10 minutes only...
Sagan 6th, not bad in such a hard course, it was really for pure climbers in the end, so great results for likes Sagan, Grivko and Clarke. Peter again without teammates for last 100kms is not helping much.
Stybar did also very good with 25th place in such a hard race. And Barta with great advertisment for czech cycling, my hero of the race, together with Huzsarski, more than 200kms in such a poring conditions.
And to finish it off, big LOL on GB, one of the worst performances ever seen. 
|
| |
|
|
| Ad Bot |
Posted on 25-11-2024 11:37
|
Bot Agent
Posts: Countless
Joined: 23.11.09
|
|
| IP: None |
|
|
| Jesleyh |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:05
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15274
Joined: 21-07-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
SzYnA wrote:
maybe Costa wins the tittle but Huzarski was the best rider today. over 240km in breakaway in that wonderful weather. so sad that with 9 guys polish team with Kwiato, Majka or Niemiec and Paterski was best at 19th place :<
HUZAAAAAR!
Well, not the best rider today imo, but he was certainly very impressive! 
Feyenoord(football) and Kelderman fanboy
PCMdaily Awards: 12x nomination, 9x runner-up, 0x win.
|
| |
|
|
| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:06
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
But biggest clowns of the day are in the Czech TV. The famous motorcycle race on dirt track was held yesterday and you know when broadcaster switched from cycling WC to tell us who won that circus race? During start of the last Fisole climb, when the five leaders escape, great timing dudes.
I was watching the group including Sagan and was thrilled how this will settle out and boom, commercial, dirt track and back to cycling, where group of five is riding for victory. Whole five hour coverage for 40,000 euros (as someone said for TV rights) ruined in its best and only interesting moment.
Morons... 
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 30-09-2013 07:07
|
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:36
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Big congrats to Costa and all his fans, congratulations Portugal. I think victory is even better, when it was against spaniards, who just totally cocked it up. Well, Valverde did, Purito made everything perfect...i dont like this style of win much, but it was smart indeed.
Overall not the best of WCs from my point of view, drama for last 10 minutes only...
Sagan 6th, not bad in such a hard course, it was really for pure climbers in the end, so great results for likes Sagan, Grivko and Clarke. Peter again without teammates for last 100kms is not helping much.
Agreed. I expected more real racing, but everyone was too chicken 
And I don't think Sagan had super legs, he did the best he could but a super Sagan would've hung on even without help, I think! |
| |
|
|
| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:40
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
Compared to,for example belgian classics, the race was really boring. Break of five, fireworks in last 10kms, end. Uran crash was the biggest higlhight late in the race. If it was proper race, Nibbles would never come back after his crash. Also i disliked Nibali being dragged back by cars to be honest, i would ban for this.
|
| |
|
|
| Ian Butler |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:42
|
Tour de France Champion
Posts: 21854
Joined: 01-05-2012
PCM$: 400.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Compared to,for example belgian classics, the race was really boring. Break of five, fireworks in last 10kms, end. Uran crash was the biggest higlhight late in the race. If it was proper race, Nibbles would never come back after his crash. Also i disliked Nibali being dragged back by cars to be honest, i would ban for this.
Imagine if he had won.
Scandal to the max
Also, I was constantly freaking out about where Sagan was because his name never appeared on the screen but then I remembered he changed bikes and he didn't have a transponder and was probably in the pack  |
| |
|
|
| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-09-2013 07:43
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
Yeah, that was funny, but he was easy to spot thanks to lime green helmet and blue jersey with stripe. 
|
| |
|
|
| Ollfardh |
Posted on 30-09-2013 08:42
|
World Champion
Posts: 14563
Joined: 08-08-2011
PCM$: 9100.00
|
First of all, I can't believe how many people underestimated that course. This was pure for climbers, no idea what Gilbert and Van Avermaet were supposed to do there. But yeah, not like we had anything better I guess.
So yeah, Nibali very strong, but the way he got back behind the car makes me glad he didn't win. Purito easily the 2nd strongest, would've won if Nibali didn't make it his lifetime goal to bring him back. Valverde is just an idiot. Grats with your bronze medal, idiot! Uran was looking good as well until he crashed. But the smartest man won, well deserved for Rui Costa.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
|
| |
|
|
| vismitananda |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:06
|
Domestique
Posts: 452
Joined: 23-02-2012
PCM$: 200.00
|
Really disappointing for Team GB. 
-Pain is temporary, Quitting lasts forever-
|
| |
|
|
| Miguel98 |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:22
|
World Champion
Posts: 10497
Joined: 23-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Woke up today and had to check if it was all just a dream. I'm still happy and I get chills when I see the replay. |
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:39
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
CountArach wrote:
Well I've only seen a clip of the last handful of kilometres and likely won't get any chance to see the whole race but it seems like it was quite exciting.
As for Costa's win. Meh. I doubt he will do much with the jersey next year. I'd be more worried that this win would make him or his team think that he could have a shot at winning GT next year where that is really not something he should be trying for.
If you were looking for a rerun the UCI channel on YouTube is carrying it if it's available where you live. Appreciate it might be more a question of a spare 8 hours though  |
| |
|
|
| kumazan |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:45
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6662
Joined: 02-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
If it was proper race, Nibbles would never come back after his crash. Also i disliked Nibali being dragged back by cars to be honest, i would ban for this.
Absolutely. The problem is this happens in pretty much every race, and in many times the rider doing this ends up high in the stage/GC. The riders are so used to this cheating I haven't heard anyone talk about Nibbles's.
|
| |
|
|
| ianrussell |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:46
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 3440
Joined: 09-10-2008
PCM$: 200.00
|
Gustavovskiy wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Pellizotti2 wrote:
Would you mind giving a short English summary of what he's saying?
He says that Valverde should have jumped onto Costa's wheel. Angrily. Quite angrily.
That was interesting.
I can't put my finger on it but if I'm not mistaken last year Freire also had some sort of disagreement with Piti regarding the team's tactics.
Now the questions is: who's he gonna piss off next year?
I'm sure Valverde would've covered it if he could. After 7 hours in the saddle and 3500m+ vertical ascent in the rain I'm guessing it's easier said than done! Having said that I'm glad he couldn't/didn't respond and Costa and Purito fought for the win. |
| |
|
|
| ShortsNL |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:46
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 898
Joined: 17-11-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Spent the entire morning watching the race. Then I played some games on my PC with the TV in the background, when the race hit the Firenze lap. 3 rounds before the finish, I fell asleep in my bed watching it.
One round before, the finish, I woke up just in time at the start of the main climb because the commentators were getting excited
All in all a pretty boring race mostly because of the length. The rain made it a little more interesting.
In the finale, I thought Italy had it when Scarponi was pacing up Nibali at the climb, but then Purito powered over them and Nibali was isolated. I felt so bad for Nibali and thought Valverde was a dick, until Costa went and Valverde got screwed over.
In the end, sad to see Purito lose but definitely props to Costa, who played it smart indeed. He will not win so much anymore next year, now everyone truly knows his danger and he'll be easy to spot.
Next year it will be pink and rainbows for Costa. He'll look so manly I'm sure
|
| |
|
|
| kumazan |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:49
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6662
Joined: 02-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
ianrussell wrote:
I'm sure Valverde would've covered it if he could.
Problem is he didn't even try. And I can't see any reason why Costa would be able to attack and Valverde wouldn't, given both had barely felt the wind by then.
ShortsNL wrote:
All in all a pretty boring race mostly because of the length.
Huh?
Edited by kumazan on 30-09-2013 09:49
|
| |
|
|
| Miguel98 |
Posted on 30-09-2013 09:52
|
World Champion
Posts: 10497
Joined: 23-06-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
Actually, if Nibali would won, I would be pretty pissed because of the crash situation. |
| |
|
|
| ShortsNL |
Posted on 30-09-2013 10:16
|
Breakaway Specialist
Posts: 898
Joined: 17-11-2011
PCM$: 200.00
|
kumazan wrote:
ShortsNL wrote:
All in all a pretty boring race mostly because of the length.
Huh?
If it wasn't for the Nibali crash, litterally nothing interesting would have happened up until the final lap.
It's because when you make a course this hard and this long, the riders and teams will just try to survive in the pack as long as possible. Favourite teams will try to keep their leader safe, while letting the natural selection weed out the outsiders. Meanwhile, the outsiders will not attack, but conserve energy up for as long as possible, to try and prevent the natural selection.
In the end, the outsiders are still there until the last climb, when the favourites are still fresh and then forced to move. The peloton is then decimated and only then is when the real race starts. The fact that the race went from a compact 50-man peloton for the last 80 kilometers to a 5 man group over the course of one climb proves that.
Tom Dumoulin was actually one of the guys to predict it beforehand (https://wielerflits.nl/nieuws/24396/to...-lang.html). I quote:
(Tom) fears that the length (272k) together with the hilly course will make the race passive. "Make the race 50k shorter and it will turn into an exciting race quickly. Now people in the peloton think: the distance will do the work, the better will surface on their own. That's a shame."
A shorter WC would also motivate the less dominant nations to attack. "Teams will then want to exhaust the rest by racing actively. Now you will likely get a tame ride. I am afraid it will become a quite passive race."
|
| |
|
|
| aidanvn13 |
Posted on 30-09-2013 10:59
|
Classics Specialist
Posts: 2797
Joined: 06-11-2010
PCM$: 200.00
|
That's true about the distance. It turns into a race of attrition, rather than a race of attacking. It's more of a case of "survival oft he fittest". I even see the same thing happen in races that I do. I'm 16, and in SA we generally race like 90km for an u16 race. Generally there are attacks the whole race through, but as soon as we race 110km+ there are very little attacks and the distance just takes care of dropping weaker riders. Eventually, it's a very small group that finishes together - similar to WC.
|
| |
|
|
| kumazan |
Posted on 30-09-2013 11:19
|
Team Leader
Posts: 6662
Joined: 02-07-2009
PCM$: 200.00
|
ShortsNL wrote:
Meanwhile, the outsiders will not attack, but conserve energy up for as long as possible, to try and prevent the natural selection.
So basically it's the outsiders being cowards, not the length preventing them to attack.
|
| |
|
|
| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-09-2013 11:40
|
World Champion
Posts: 14236
Joined: 20-06-2011
PCM$: 300.00
|
kumazan wrote:
ShortsNL wrote:
Meanwhile, the outsiders will not attack, but conserve energy up for as long as possible, to try and prevent the natural selection.
So basically it's the outsiders being cowards, not the length preventing them to attack.
Yep, at least we had some exceptions in duo Bart + their partners in the break.
|
| |
|
