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| Crommy |
Posted on 20-05-2010 08:50
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SotD wrote:
Cadel Evans always seem to be alone. No matter how good his team is on paper they suck. Vino's is decent I think. Grivko, Stangelj and Jufre are decent helpers that will keep up for the most of the stage. Evans don't have a single rider capable of going over a mountain.
Ballan should have been here. I know it's just one helper, but given their team, it would have been a very good helper
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| Smowz |
Posted on 20-05-2010 08:52
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Just an unbelievable day yesterday, once again I had to take in the replay yesterday so much was happening. Thanks for the feed, watched it whilst at work which caused a few people extra to take an interest.
This Giro is still to be decided in the final week but yesterday makes things a hell a lot more exciting than it appeared it was going to be. When I saw Vino and Evans attacking on that stage that Goss won I thought to myself here we go for the rest of the Giro these two with Liquigas running around the edges much like last year with Menchov/Di Luca.
However Rabo and LPR were pretty strong last year and did a lot of underrated work. Liquigas also contributed last year and for my money were the driving force behind yesterdays break not gaining 15+ minutes.
BMC are not anywhere near the required strength to support a GT rider. Evans has had some support in the past Chris Horner and even Matthew Lloyd come to mind. This year he has virtually nothing. BMC cobbled together a team that could be respectable at the TTT (and Bookwalter can take credit for a good ITT performance too) but not a lot else.
Astana are better but only having 4 others now is a problem, Jufre, Strangelj and Grivko are not going to be enough to put pressure on others.
Its going to fall to Liquigas and Lampre (they'll do it in the vain hope that Cunego does something) to put pressure on the others.
I am very excited about the weekend stages, I think the true dangermen are Tondo, Sastre and Wiggins. Sastre and Wiggins have been there before and have proven pedigree on the toughest stages even when they are not at their best. Tondo? Do not know so much about him, but he has looked strong all season and in particular on the Terminillo.
Porte is into the unknown, I am guessing that the last week is going to be too tough for him. Arroyo I see as a guy like others mention takes the oppurtunity to get in sticking last week breaks to steal back time like someone like say Sandy Casar. In mountain stages where he tries to stick with the best he ends up losing a couple of minutes at least.
Difficult to assess another wild card Kiserlovski, should think Liquigas will still work their asses off for Basso. |
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| pesci |
Posted on 20-05-2010 09:51
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Smowz wrote:
J. Arroyo I see as a guy like others mention takes the oppurtunity to get in sticking last week breaks to steal back time like someone like say Sandy Casar. In mountain stages where he tries to stick with the best he ends up losing a couple of minutes at least. .
Well I may have to remember you that last weekend he was saturday with the best ones and Sunday almost. So with the extra motivation of at least been on the Podium, his experience and the fact that he is 5 minutes before Sastre and Wiggings it might be enough. |
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| arthon |
Posted on 20-05-2010 09:52
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At least we know a spaniard will probably win it. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:06
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arthon wrote:
At least we know a spaniard will probably win it.
jep..and also all podium places.. |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:19
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pesci wrote:
Smowz wrote:
J. Arroyo I see as a guy like others mention takes the oppurtunity to get in sticking last week breaks to steal back time like someone like say Sandy Casar. In mountain stages where he tries to stick with the best he ends up losing a couple of minutes at least. .
Well I may have to remember you that last weekend he was saturday with the best ones and Sunday almost. So with the extra motivation of at least been on the Podium, his experience and the fact that he is 5 minutes before Sastre and Wiggings it might be enough.
Well my view is that considering Arroyo's excellent performance on the strade Bianchi stage he was disappointing on Terminello where he finished behind Porte. But I decided to research what happened to Arroyo last year, I recalled that he was doing okay on GC and seemed to slowly drift away.
The ITT on stage 12 of last year that Arroyo lost 4 and a half minutes on Menchov, he also had a tough time on the Blockhaus climb. On a lot of other stages he was really close to the lead group.
Looking back at this race Arroyo lost the best part of a minute to Wiggins and about 30 seconds to Sastre in the opening Time Trial this is still an obvious concern with 2 short but testing TTs left. In Arroyos defense he has some strong team members to help him out.
Who knows what this Giro has in store for us good times ahead! |
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| SotD |
Posted on 20-05-2010 11:42
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Crommy wrote:
SotD wrote:
Cadel Evans always seem to be alone. No matter how good his team is on paper they suck. Vino's is decent I think. Grivko, Stangelj and Jufre are decent helpers that will keep up for the most of the stage. Evans don't have a single rider capable of going over a mountain.
Ballan should have been here. I know it's just one helper, but given their team, it would have been a very good helper
Agreed!
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2010 11:47
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Two more retirements. Weylandt and Roels.
Should be a relaxed stage, this one.
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| arthon |
Posted on 20-05-2010 11:52
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arthon wrote:
Good time by Morkov, and total s**t from David Arroyo. The guy can't time trial.
I'm not sure if he'll lose another minute on the last time-trial, but we'll have to wait and see. Can't wait for Sunday and the Zoncolan! 
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| pesci |
Posted on 20-05-2010 12:11
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Smowz wrote:
pesci wrote:
Smowz wrote:
J. Arroyo I see as a guy like others mention takes the oppurtunity to get in sticking last week breaks to steal back time like someone like say Sandy Casar. In mountain stages where he tries to stick with the best he ends up losing a couple of minutes at least. .
Well I may have to remember you that last weekend he was saturday with the best ones and Sunday almost. So with the extra motivation of at least been on the Podium, his experience and the fact that he is 5 minutes before Sastre and Wiggings it might be enough.
Well my view is that considering Arroyo's excellent performance on the strade Bianchi stage he was disappointing on Terminello where he finished behind Porte. But I decided to research what happened to Arroyo last year, I recalled that he was doing okay on GC and seemed to slowly drift away.
The ITT on stage 12 of last year that Arroyo lost 4 and a half minutes on Menchov, he also had a tough time on the Blockhaus climb. On a lot of other stages he was really close to the lead group.
Looking back at this race Arroyo lost the best part of a minute to Wiggins and about 30 seconds to Sastre in the opening Time Trial this is still an obvious concern with 2 short but testing TTs left. In Arroyos defense he has some strong team members to help him out.
Who knows what this Giro has in store for us good times ahead!
Very good research work!!
Yes you might be right, but lets see what podium motivation can do.
Of course he will lose a couple of minutes last day against the big ones but I hope that will not be enough... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2010 13:30
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Add Larsson to the DNSs
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-05-2010 13:33
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Was Larsson in the Giro? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2010 13:37
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kumazan wrote:
Was Larsson in the Giro?
Yes. You can tell by the large clearing around him in the peloton. The space is reserved for his ego.
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| boork |
Posted on 20-05-2010 13:52
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Im quite sure i just saw Larsson pull the peloton. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 20-05-2010 14:01
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Cyclingnews does it again:
Will we finally see an Italian stage winner today? The tifosi are getting pretty impatient. Will Alessandro Petacchi find his top speed again or Tyler Farrar remain almost unbeatable? If the stage does finish in a bunch sprint...
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| SotD |
Posted on 20-05-2010 14:31
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I think they wrote the predictions prior to the Giro. I've seen several where I though "Right. That man is clearly the proper bet."
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 20-05-2010 14:32
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SotD wrote:
I think they wrote the predictions prior to the Giro. I've seen several where I though "Right. That man is clearly the proper bet."
Unfortunately that was written in their live feed half an hour ago.
[url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| khris |
Posted on 20-05-2010 14:35
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issoisso wrote:
Add Larsson to the DNSs
That's strange, he's been protecting Porte today...hard to do that if you don't start.  |
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| Pazflor |
Posted on 20-05-2010 14:35
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Someone with a good stream? |
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| khris |
Posted on 20-05-2010 14:39
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My bet that there would be 7 or more maglia rosa wearers is looking better and better, before stage 11 I thought it might just be Vino and maybe Evans that would wear it the rest of the way...
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