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| roturn |
Posted on 17-01-2011 19:21
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Have lots of group works in my engineering study at the moment. Normally 2 guys doing most work for a 3 or 4 men group. This can be really annoying as I am normally one of the working guys.
Not that they are just lazy, they are also to dump for this sometimes and you just think how they reached the 3rd semester. |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 19:23
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Except, Im doing Maths. So Id be surprised if any sort of Group project pops up again 
I was just going to recommend a maths degree as a way to avoid group work, I've worked alone for 4 years now, not a group project in sight.
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 19:57
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We once (class 5 or 6) had to do some group work for music and finally the teacher said: "You can be happy with a 5-" (2nd worst mark in Germany).
This year we only had some groupwork in biology. Always lots of fun as we finished much earlier than the others and biology in general is interesting. Not like math or physik
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 20:21
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I don't dislike group work. But I hate when the teacher makes random groups. When you choose groups yourself you can pair yourself up with people who have the same idea of "success" as yourself.
For some just passing might be the goal of the group, for others getting a top grade is the goal. And when these types end up together the good ones will have to settle for a lesser result due to people below them in competence will drag them down.
I do lots of group work myself, and the High School education I have chosen is specified towards group work in a greater sense than other are here in Denmark, and am fortunate to have found two great group mates in my class where we all three want to do the best possible end result and that reflects on our projects.
And SN, making a great powerpoint isn't 'easy'. Making a bad powerpoint is easy, but to make a great one takes lots of time. A thumb rule is that to make a 5 minute presentation you have to use 20 minutes on the powerpoint. But a great powerpoint can be a difference maker of the presentation.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 17-01-2011 20:24
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roturn wrote:
Have lots of group works in my engineering study at the moment. Normally 2 guys doing most work for a 3 or 4 men group. This can be really annoying as I am normally one of the working guys.
Not that they are just lazy, they are also to dump for this sometimes and you just think how they reached the 3rd semester.
Get them out of the group. That's what I've done whenever I've found myself in such situation.
Well, it was only once, but still. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 17-01-2011 20:27
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And SN, making a great powerpoint isn't 'easy'. Making a bad powerpoint is easy, but to make a great one takes lots of time. A thumb rule is that to make a 5 minute presentation you have to use 20 minutes on the powerpoint. But a great powerpoint can be a difference maker of the presentation.
20 minutes working on Powerpoint vs 20 minutes researching. Imo, Powerpoint is easier, and more interesting. Besides, part of the motivation in taking the powerpoint role is also to make sure the powerpoint doesnt end up being rubbish
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| roturn |
Posted on 17-01-2011 20:45
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kumazan wrote:
roturn wrote:
Have lots of group works in my engineering study at the moment. Normally 2 guys doing most work for a 3 or 4 men group. This can be really annoying as I am normally one of the working guys.
Not that they are just lazy, they are also to dump for this sometimes and you just think how they reached the 3rd semester.
Get them out of the group. That's what I've done whenever I've found myself in such situation.
Well, it was only once, but still.
If this was possible I would have done it immediately. But either you get a mark as group or you fail.
In other group works it was possible, but not in all unfortunately.
But actually I learn for myself and if the other guys don`t want to do anything than they get a good mark in this group work but not later if they have to do it on their own.
So I don`t really care as long as there are still others in my group to share work with. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 17-01-2011 21:54
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I sometimes get the sense group work is made mandatory by teachers so that they dont have to mark as many projects as opposed to it being an indiviual project 
Also I just hate having rely on other people most of the time.
I think this exact group Im in has two control freaks (myself being one of them) which doesnt mix.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 17-01-2011 22:59
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roturn wrote:
kumazan wrote:
roturn wrote:
Have lots of group works in my engineering study at the moment. Normally 2 guys doing most work for a 3 or 4 men group. This can be really annoying as I am normally one of the working guys.
Not that they are just lazy, they are also to dump for this sometimes and you just think how they reached the 3rd semester.
Get them out of the group. That's what I've done whenever I've found myself in such situation.
Well, it was only once, but still.
If this was possible I would have done it immediately. But either you get a mark as group or you fail.
In other group works it was possible, but not in all unfortunately.
But actually I learn for myself and if the other guys don`t want to do anything than they get a good mark in this group work but not later if they have to do it on their own.
So I don`t really care as long as there are still others in my group to share work with.
That sucks then. It doesn't make much sense to force some people to work for others who do nothing. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-01-2011 13:06
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So, 1½ year ago I was at a stag party with my brother-in-law. For whatever reason, I said I would easily destroy him if we went to France and climbed Mont Ventoux. The challenge was accepted, and we've tried to find a proper date since then. We finally sorted it out, and we're going on the 1st of June (although not to Ventoux, but to the Alp d'Huez area instead).
The only problem? He has been up several other mountains before. Me? Never. And I'm playing American football. Not really the kind of guy who should sit on a bike and try to get up tough mountains. I don't even own a race bike. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 18-01-2011 13:14
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Hope you enjoy 
I also don`t ride that much unfortunately and prefer football and other things.
Maybe I should move my bike to my new town and ride again a bit. I always wanted to climb Alpe d'Huez or similar mountains but living in the very flat North of Germany doesn`t train. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 18-01-2011 13:32
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Start training already. I'm sure you can find plenty of good training roads in the very mountainous Denmark. |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 18-01-2011 13:38
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You can´t enjoy riding up a difficult mountain as fast as possible
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 18-01-2011 14:08
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CrueTrue wrote:
The only problem? He has been up several other mountains before. Me? Never.
Can we get a bet up on the outcome of your "challenge"?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-01-2011 14:25
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CrueTrue wrote:
So, 1½ year ago I was at a stag party with my brother-in-law. For whatever reason, I said I would easily destroy him if we went to France and climbed Mont Ventoux. The challenge was accepted, and we've tried to find a proper date since then. We finally sorted it out, and we're going on the 1st of June (although not to Ventoux, but to the Alp d'Huez area instead).
The only problem? He has been up several other mountains before. Me? Never. And I'm playing American football. Not really the kind of guy who should sit on a bike and try to get up tough mountains. I don't even own a race bike.
Next time someone talks about cycling up something, try to remind yourself you are nowhere near the ideal height or weight to be a pro cyclist.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 18-01-2011 14:28
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CrueTrue wrote:
For whatever reason, I said I would easily destroy him if we went to France and climbed Mont Ventoux.
I know the reason. The reason for all stupid decisions... Alcohol
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-01-2011 14:32
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Confirmed. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 22-01-2011 08:15
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Ah, the joys of Uni education ... Ive got a 9am Saturday Morning exam coming up in the next 45 mins. Cant wait ...
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| roturn |
Posted on 22-01-2011 08:19
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Good luck |
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| E_Hagen |
Posted on 22-01-2011 10:47
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