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Vuelta a España 2011
lagetcher
You can't help but wonder what might have happened in this Vuelta if Wiggins had worked for Froome rather than the other way round (only because of hindsight of course - you couldn't forsee that Froome would be so strong). Now for a very odd final week.
 
wisdow23
Are you kidding me ?! We had 2 Belgians, 2 dutch , Dane .. + 2 Brits in top 10 !!
 
brewers90
2 - Chris Froome - Team Sky +20
3 - Bradley Wiggins - Team Sky +46

For God's sake!!!

Now I know what it's like to be from Luxembourg. Grin
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Juan
So, this is the last thing that can prevent Cobo from winning this Vuelta :

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ruben
Prevent? Cobo is probably only going to win time
 
supradyn
Could someone tell me title of the song which was played after Cobo's interview?
 
Juan
ruben wrote:
Prevent? Cobo is probably only going to win time

exactly, I just meant that the last opportunity for anybody to gain time is Peña Cabarga Wink
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miggi133
brewers90 wrote:
2 - Chris Froome - Team Sky +20
3 - Bradley Wiggins - Team Sky +46

For God's sake!!!

Now I know what it's like to be from Luxembourg. Grin


It cant be the same feeling... We have a brother duo that has been failing to win the tour the last 4 years...

But still. Froome is actually the suprise. He was pulling Wiggins all the way up the mountain and when wiggo cracked he still had the legs to go for himself... Kinda like Rolland
 
Jonathan
issoisso wrote:
So, Cobo takes the lead. Toldya.
Make no mistake, Wiggins and Froome did very well today. Simply Cobo did better.

I hope Sky can spring a move in the next week because I really don't want this walking positive test winning the GC. Although it does have a bit of an Eric Caritoux feel to it.


The evolution of Froome is also ''remarkable''.
 
frot
Sky need to sign Froome fast. They've made a lot of hype about a British TDF winner, and in Froome they've definitely found someone with the potential to be a contender for top 5/10. Yes, the field isn't brilliant but the way he climbed today showed that he definitely has a lot of talent.

Sky need to keep fighting. It's unlikely but you'll never know. And with Wiggins' big engine now working for him Froome can maybe launch something (unlikely I know)
 
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ruben
Funny how so many accept Froome's efforts as normal, but Cobo, who has done and proven far more, is suspect.

I'm disgusted by some users double standards
 
I_Mayo
Ha ha, where are now these all, who said that Wiggins and Froome just let go Cobo yesterday?

And if you talk about "walking positive test". Than I can make the same argument about the guy who rode track cycling his whole career or some Kenyan, whose biggest achievement thus far was stage win in Tour of Mauritius.
 
ruben
I_Mayo wrote:
Ha ha, where are now these all, who said that Wiggins and Froome just let go Cobo yesterday?

And if you talk about "walking positive test". Than I can make the same argument about the guy who rode track cycling his whole career or some Kenyan, whose biggest achievement thus far was stage win in Tour of Mauritius.

This, confront them with their double standards.

So tired of the constant suspicion on cycling boards. Guys like Vanendert in the Tour and Froome in the Vuelta are far more 'suspicious' coming out of almost nowhere. But I won't distrust them as long as nothing weird has been found.
 
Wilier
ruben wrote:
Funny how so many accept Froome's efforts as normal, but Cobo, who has done and proven far more, is suspect.

I'm disgusted by some users double standards


Same as in the TDF when no one questioned Europcar's perfomance.
 
felix_29
Cobo´s team and his past (being good in the year when Ricco and Piepoli won Giro stages) is what makes him far more suspicious, the fact that Wiggins was a track rider doesn´t mean he can´t climbWink
Froome´s win in Maurtania could also be seen as indicator of his talent as he was only 20 years old, but i have to agree that he is surprisingly (=suspicious) good.
 
FreitasPCM
Is there anyone else who thinks Menchov was the only one who didn't seem to struggle in the Wiggins/Froome/Poels group? I think if Cobo wasn't in that privileged situation, he'd attack...
 
Alesle
FreitasPCM wrote:
Is there anyone else who thinks Menchov was the only one who didn't seem to struggle in the Wiggins/Froome/Poels group? I think if Cobo wasn't in that privileged situation, he'd attack...

Menchov struggeled on the steepest parts, or at leat to me Poels looked stronger there. Overall Menchov looked fairly comfortable though.
 
litllemagnum
ruben wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Ha ha, where are now these all, who said that Wiggins and Froome just let go Cobo yesterday?

And if you talk about "walking positive test". Than I can make the same argument about the guy who rode track cycling his whole career or some Kenyan, whose biggest achievement thus far was stage win in Tour of Mauritius.

This, confront them with their double standards.

So tired of the constant suspicion on cycling boards. Guys like Vanendert in the Tour and Froome in the Vuelta are far more 'suspicious' coming out of almost nowhere. But I won't distrust them as long as nothing weird has been found.


This. Although Vanendert didn't come from nowhere but from somewhere Cool
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ruben
FreitasPCM wrote:
Is there anyone else who thinks Menchov was the only one who didn't seem to struggle in the Wiggins/Froome/Poels group? I think if Cobo wasn't in that privileged situation, he'd attack...


Yeah but unlike Wiggins, Menchov is a formidable team mate who doesn't claim leader roles if he sees a team-mate has the chance of winning the Vuelta.
 
Zanci93
Strong Monfort ! I hope Leopard will take some risk in the third week even if it's not their strenght (tour 2011!!) They have several strong cards to play (Monfort,Fuglsang, Zaugg, Rohregger...) Go for the podiumBanana
 
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