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issoisso
CrueTrue wrote:
I remember(ed) Cobo, but I expect him to be one of the ones caught by UCI's blood passport tests Pfft


Which will start running in about February. Plenty of time until then.

Just don't say bad things about Dankan's team or he'll be contractually obligated to slap you silly Pfft
 
Dankan
issoisso wrote:
Just don't say bad things about Dankan's team or he'll be contractually obligated to slap you silly Pfft


Shock

Please guys, look at his results. Most regular rider for Spain last year, with the table full of top-20 places. Had they wanted to get him out of the game, they had the chance to do it at the TdF. They didn't + it was simply pushing his way to a humilliating outcome for the others = no drugs. Not for him. Not this time. Not regarding the team.
 
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issoisso
Dankan wrote:
Shock

Please guys, look at his results. Most regular rider for Spain last year, with the table full of top-20 places. Had they wanted to get him out of the game, they had the chance to do it at the TdF. They didn't + it was simply pushing his way to a humilliating outcome for the others = no drugs. Not for him. Not this time. Not regarding the team.


We're kidding, lighten up Wink
 
Dankan
issoisso wrote:
Dankan wrote:
Shock

Please guys, look at his results. Most regular rider for Spain last year, with the table full of top-20 places. Had they wanted to get him out of the game, they had the chance to do it at the TdF. They didn't + it was simply pushing his way to a humilliating outcome for the others = no drugs. Not for him. Not this time. Not regarding the team.


We're kidding, lighten up Wink


I know you're kidding isso, just clearing up that matter... simply my opinion on that.
 
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issoisso
Dankan wrote:
I know you're kidding isso, just clearing up that matter... simply my opinion on that.


In that case, please explain this part. I didn't quite get it.

Dankan wrote:
it was simply pushing his way to a humilliating outcome for the others = no drugs. Not for him. Not this time. Not regarding the team.
 
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Dankan
The Spanish verb for it makes the explanation simplier: "Arrasar". He was too good to be reliable, but they didn't get him. It's reasonable to think he's a dopehead, because of the team he was part of. But those cases from Piepoli and Riccò, who were in a completely different "way" Cobo was, aren't measurable. They have nothing to do with the team, and neither did Cobo.

Matxin has taken no risks to build the new team. He wanted to sign Koldo Gil, but had to take a step backwards because of his past experiences (OP). Then Fabio Duarte, who wasn't reliable until the UCI sent a press release, taking any doping charge out of him. And now people criticize them because they're making weird transfers (clean riders), while no youngsters are promoted (the most interesting ones are dopeheads) and people like Rubén Lobato (you'll understand this: "Rubén BOMBAto", he's a bomb) aren't renewed.
Edited by Dankan on 29-12-2008 20:55
 
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knasen
Fredrik Kessiakoff has sign Fuji-Servetto. He has a third place at Mount Bike WC 2006.

OOO I was late.
Edited by knasen on 29-12-2008 21:17
 
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issoisso
Dankan wrote:
The Spanish verb for it makes the explanation simplier: "Arrasar". He was too good to be reliable, but they didn't get him. It's reasonable to think he's a dopehead, because of the team he was part of. But those cases from Piepoli and Riccò, who were in a completely different "way" Cobo was, aren't measurable. They have nothing to do with the team, and neither did Cobo.



I understand your point. From that point of view, it'll be interesting to see if his performance drops. And if he isn't with the best on the climbs of the Tour, to me that's a performance drop.

Dankan wrote:
Matxin has taken no risks to build the new team.



Dankan wrote:
. And now people criticize them because they're making weird transfers (clean riders),



Well, he did sign a few riders that....well....I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. But the "bias" towards riders that don't have "a reputation" is obvious.

EDIT: actually, not just "a few". a bucketload.


Dankan wrote:
while no youngsters are promoted (the most interesting ones are dopeheads)


Sadly that's quite true, but still, there's youngsters out there without a pro contract that he might have taken a chance on. Not that he needs it, mind, the team is young and has more than enough potential. Especially when it comes to climbers, as is normal with spanish teams Wink


Dankan wrote:
and people like Rubén Lobato (you'll understand this: "Rubén BOMBAto", he's a bomb) aren't renewed.


Thank fuck for that.
Edited by issoisso on 29-12-2008 23:29
 
kirosha
Sergei Honchar will ride for ISD next year!
 
knasen
kirosha wrote:
Sergei Honchar will ride for ISD next year!
= No giro.
 
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CrueTrue
Although I'm not 100 % sure, I think it was impossible anyway due to ISD being a Continental team.
 
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fenian_1234
I thought I saw something on cyclingnews the other day about them being optimistic of a Giro invite with the Cippo/Visconti connection.
 
CrueTrue
Oops, I'm mixing up ISD and H2O now. Sorry. ISD is a Pro Continental team and can therefore be invited to the big events.
Edited by CrueTrue on 30-12-2008 11:53
 
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fenian_1234
That's good, because I thought I was mixing teams up.Wink
 
alexkr00
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CrueTrue
Wrong thread, guys Wink
 
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alexkr00
oh yeah now I see, I thought it was News in December
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CrueTrue
Remember the former Italian footballer Fabrizio Ravanelli? He just started his own cycling team, Umbria Cycling Team.
 
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alexkr00
Oh, that's good. I thought we became a cyclist Pfft
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Wiggo
Link?
 
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