issoisso wrote:
[quote]KurtinSC wrote:
The stuff with Cav's train... something doesn't feel right about it.
I mean... Cippo had incredible trains... I have a hard time putting the Columbia train ahead of Cippo's.
Pick up some old DVDs. watch the finishes. You won't find a single instance where Cippo started even half the sprints at the front.
Columbia train is like impossible to manipulate and crack. Best example was today..they tryed with Milram train..tryed to but riders inside Columbia train. Nothing..that train change a rythm if needed..closed inside corners if needed to. And like clockwork last man moving away when they have 200-250 to go. Perfect ...day after day.
Bet we didn't hear about any of this before the tour.
I have a magazine with interviews with Cippo where he stated that Cav would have a lot of trouble beating him with his train.
He went into a lot of detail... saying his train launched him at top speed, while Cav's train was slower so he still had to accelerate. His reasoning was that Cav's great asset was acceleration rather than top end speed, and with Cippo at top speed Cav would never be able to pass.
Now granted... This is Cippo talking about himself and we know he's not lacking in ego... but it seems like the thought before the tour was that Cav's train was not invincible.
Now it seems all I'm hearing about is the strength of his train. I'm just struggling with the negativity directed at this guy on this board in particular. Granted... in general we lean towards being negative on this board to whoever is doing well (look at how people talk about Lance and Contador now, Edvald in the Giro, Contador in the Giro and Vuelta last year, Evans in last year's tour, etc)... but still, I think with Cav it's time to say that he's just better then everyone else right now, train or no.
You do realize that every example you named comes from people being negative about the rider's personality, not quality, or in Hagen's case comes from people being extremely annoyed at the Hagen fans, not at all at Hagen himself.