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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-07-2008 23:39
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This could be big https://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/s...id=3504036 |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 24-07-2008 23:41
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THANK YOU GOD
I remind you Martial Saugy himself said that 80% of the peloton is on blood transfusions and growth hormone and that this last one is the drug of choice right now.
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this is from last november
Lab director alleges blood doping at Tour
The director of the WADA-accredited Swiss Laboratory for Analysis of Doping in Lausanne, Switzerland, has told Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws that he believed there was still widespread doping in the Tour de France this year. "47 out of 189 riders raced on blood transfusions or EPO," Martial Saugy alleged. "We have been able to show this from the samples taken at the health controls."
Still, Saugy added that these test results did not fulfil the requirements to be declared as 'positive'. "It is appalling, but we find so many test results that undoubtedly point to manipulation," he continued. "But there is a big difference between a suspicious sample and one that can be declared positive."
Saugy also found indications for the use of testosterone and growth hormone. "Especially the latter product is very popular at the moment," he added. "As soon as there will be a water-proof test for growth hormone, it will show that 80 percent [of the peloton] is taking it. I am disillusioned: the use of growth hormone is as bad as was the use of EPO and blood doping in the 90's."
Edited by issoisso on 24-07-2008 23:44
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-07-2008 23:46
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Some more sources: https://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/...p?t=437411
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/...03639.html
https://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/...test_N.htm
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Found the original report, however you can only read a snippet https://washington.bizjournals.com/was...tory8.html
Edited by Deadpool on 24-07-2008 23:48
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 25-07-2008 00:03
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Also that story caused Isso to use capitals, which is a rare occurance, so he must be happy. But this could be very important for catching dopers not just in Cycling, but in the sporting world as a whole. The fact that WADA is saying that it appears it will be a viable test within six months is important as well, as it means this isn't the sort of thing we'll be waiting for years to become useable |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 25-07-2008 08:51
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They should have kept it quiet, then released it secretly to catch a bucket load of dopers in many sports.
Oh well, it'll now just catch out the dumber ones
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| ruben |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:30
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Deadpool wrote:
What races has Dekker done this year, I haven't seen him in anything, or is he gunning for the Vuelta
3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd in Vuelta Castilla y Leon stages, and 3rd overall (behind Contador and Soler)
3rd in the 5th and 6th stage of the Vuelta a Pais Vasco, and 3rd overall (behind Contador and Evans)
5th in the Amstel Gold Race
5th in Fleche Wallone
6th in Liege Bastogne Liege
4th and 2th in the 1st and 3th stage of the Tour de Romandie, before dropping out in 2nd position overall.
And you haven't seen him?
Amazing how you managed that.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:42
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What's wrong here?
Edited by issoisso on 25-07-2008 13:46
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| THNDDK |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:49
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Cancellara stays with CSC for three years
"Kraftværket fra Rostock, en stor bastant trampende tysker, en torpedo, der skydes gennem luftrummet, en bombe af kraft, pløjer nærmest asfalten op, benene går som store stempler på den tyske maskine, en rullende bismarcksklump."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:52
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issoisso wrote:
What's wrong here?
hint: look at the list of riders. this is official UCI website, by the way.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:58
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Its totally not a certain rider that retired ages ago.
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| jolly_antunes |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:58
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Is the Uzbek guy??
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:58
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Haha, Abdoujaparov
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:59
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Abdoujaparov
What a guy
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2008 13:59
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The worst part is that it's not just one rider. Henri Abadie retired 5 years before Abdou. And neither of them ever rode for CA
Edited by issoisso on 25-07-2008 14:01
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-07-2008 14:07
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A former festina doctor (forget his name) says that apart from the performance of the Schlecks and of Goubert being extremely suspicious, Cancellara's performance is "impossible without doping".
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| Setzel |
Posted on 25-07-2008 14:11
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Goubert did that in Vuelta and last year he always manage to stay there he is quickly dropped but he rides in his rhytm and manages to stay in the back not loosing to much !
He did that for the last 2-3 years 
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| Setzel |
Posted on 25-07-2008 14:13
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issoisso wrote:
Cancellara's performance is "impossible without doping".
Cancellara ? Look at Voigt in the first mountain stage i always sais he is doped he won the German Tour the TT and the moutain stage ....and he always drops in that kind of stages.
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| THNDDK |
Posted on 25-07-2008 14:48
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Setzel wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Cancellara's performance is "impossible without doping".
Cancellara ? Look at Voigt in the first mountain stage i always sais he is doped he won the German Tour the TT and the moutain stage ....and he always drops in that kind of stages.
That must be the best dope on the market then
"Kraftværket fra Rostock, en stor bastant trampende tysker, en torpedo, der skydes gennem luftrummet, en bombe af kraft, pløjer nærmest asfalten op, benene går som store stempler på den tyske maskine, en rullende bismarcksklump."
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 25-07-2008 15:31
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About the HGH test, who really cares? When it's detectable, they just move on to other, non-detectable products. |
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 25-07-2008 18:53
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I think they have some way to manipulate hematocrit readings. You can take all the dope in the world, but nothing comes close to a high hematocrit!
That being said, I think it's absolutely nice if the tests get more simple. Only focusing on the elite won't bring us anywhere. The dope culture starts in the lower categories! |
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