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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 13:20
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Let's also Discuss another Big thing.
Free Agents.
Because some of the Teams Won't be in the Game we want some Free Agents.
Sent in a form like this:
Name: Matthis Bolly
Club: Fortuna Dusseldorf
Why: 97 Sprinting and Acceleration (FIFA)
We Again make a list and consider if he will be added.
it will be a Free Agent so you can scout them in Career  |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-03-2015 13:20
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coolrex wrote:
Strength is used for cobble,
Yeah I read that but does that work?
It's only a small part of football and lots of guys(basically every defender and lots of others as well) have high strength. Also if RYD(FL) is dribbling, then every defender will have low FL but high cobble. Even for the most elite defenders like Ramos and Silva who still don't have high dribbling. That won't work.
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 13:23
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Jesleyh wrote:
coolrex wrote:
Strength is used for cobble,
Yeah I read that but does that work?
It's only a small part of football and lots of guys(basically every defender and lots of others as well) have high strength. Also if RYD(FL) is dribbling, then every defender will have low FL but high cobble. Even for the most elite defenders like Ramos and Silva who still don't have high dribbling. That won't work.
maybe we could do this,
Dribbling = Flat for the Attackers / Midfielders
Interceptions = Flat for the Defenders / Defending Midfielders |
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| jennro98 |
Posted on 01-03-2015 13:32
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@coolrex
Do we keep the current races or do we use new races? For example Tour de France becomes Champions League. Only the clubs from that country start in the races from that country to simulate the national leagues. For example only German teams in Tour of Cologne to simulate the Bundesliga
Edited by jennro98 on 01-03-2015 13:34
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 14:17
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jennro98 wrote:
@coolrex
Do we keep the current races or do we use new races? For example Tour de France becomes Champions League. Only the clubs from that country start in the races from that country to simulate the national leagues. For example only German teams in Tour of Cologne to simulate the Bundesliga
we can do that. but the problem is.
that you can't promote anymore in the career.
and you will have less chance to have fun.
although we can rename some races.
anyway, if you can help somehow then thanks, but on the other hand.
it's a little hard to think about an system for the races.
because netherlands, france and spain haves the most races.
which will give them too easy to win the division.
for example ajax, psv and feyenoord will only get promoted.
so if you have a good idea for it. please help with it.
if you want to fully help with the project just say so. |
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| jennro98 |
Posted on 01-03-2015 14:35
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@coolrex
Promotions goes with the CQ ranking. So the great races like the Giro, Liège and Tour has more influence then for example the Ster van Zwolle. Maybe you can change the point scales. |
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 15:14
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jennro98 wrote:
@coolrex
Promotions goes with the CQ ranking. So the great races like the Giro, Liège and Tour has more influence then for example the Ster van Zwolle. Maybe you can change the point scales.
we can do that. so that everyone from CT and PCT haves a chance to get promotion. but the problem is,
only 5 US races,
only 7 Germany Races,
only 2 Great Britain Races, <-- biggest problem
and there are just not enough races to do so.
we can add some new races. but still not all countries will have enough races.
I think we will keep it that all clubs from all countries will battle eachother on the battlefield. but we want to change the schedules.
I think that most races will get changed and some will only have teams in it from only 1 league to have more chances to win or get an harder challenge.
now the question is. is there someone who can reschedule the races, not the dates but the teams competing. in a way that all teams will have the same chance to win. i know it's hard but it's easier if someone is specialized in it. does someone wants to do this? redrawing the races? |
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| jennro98 |
Posted on 01-03-2015 15:25
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@coolrex
Well, now you have to think what the goal is for your project. Do you wanna make a database who is full based on football or only the teams. You can change races to fix the problem. Ten national races for a competition looks me enough. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-03-2015 15:37
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I don't think that will be practically possible. There would not be enough teams per race and the AI would completely fuck up. Also I don't think it will be possible to force the teams to participate in the races of their own nationality.
Yeah you could make it an NC but then every country will have lots of NCs every year and believe me, PCM can't handle that.
Just first make the teams and players right and then look if this is possible, but for me it does not seem like a good idea.
Shall I attempt to get out some Fifa -> PCM stat simulations later today, coolrex?
Because tbh I don't fully agree with yours, who are often leaning on only 1 specific Fifa stat(while PCM only has 12 stats while Fifa has 33 in total)
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 16:29
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Jesleyh wrote:
I don't think that will be practically possible. There would not be enough teams per race and the AI would completely fuck up. Also I don't think it will be possible to force the teams to participate in the races of their own nationality.
Yeah you could make it an NC but then every country will have lots of NCs every year and believe me, PCM can't handle that.
Just first make the teams and players right and then look if this is possible, but for me it does not seem like a good idea.
Shall I attempt to get out some Fifa -> PCM stat simulations later today, coolrex?
Because tbh I don't fully agree with yours, who are often leaning on only 1 specific Fifa stat(while PCM only has 12 stats while Fifa has 33 in total)
You can try if you want. i will be eating so again im back later brb |
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:05
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@jesleyh please look at this.
it's pretty much working like i said:
(still have to convert the attackers but its good)
(its FC Bayern Munchen)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3k7v0uoocml....xlsx?dl=0
Edited by coolrex on 01-03-2015 19:06
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| jennro98 |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:07
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You can't set this races as NC because only the riders of that nation will start. Chelsea without Costa, Hazard, Courtois and Cech, PSG without Ibrahimovic and Cavani, Real Madrid without Ronaldo and Benzema,... If you wanna make a football calender you have to shuffle the calender that every country has ten races. You must also change the point scales. For example: Tour of Flanders (Champions League deserve more points then Gent - Wevelgem (Europa League) and Gent - Wevelgem deserve then more points then Scheldeprijs (Jupiler Pro League)
Edited by jennro98 on 01-03-2015 19:08
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:08
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That would not be playable in PCM.
Everyone is way too all-around.
Jenro, I know, there would basically be no way that it would work well.
Edited by Jesleyh on 01-03-2015 19:09
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| jennro98 |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:12
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You can maybe update the point scales like the UEFA-coefficients but including the races under the WT.
Three classes:
Champions League: GT2, GT1, 1.WT
Europa League: 2.WT, 1.WT2
National competitions: 1.1, 2.1, 1.BC, 2.BC, 1.2, 2.2
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:12
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Jesleyh wrote:
That would not be playable in PCM.
Everyone is way too all-around.
Jenro, I know, there would basically be no way that it would work well.
yeah but those players are the Elite,
they are like Omega Pharma in PCM 2014,
whilst CT would have only specialized in 1 thing |
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:17
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jennro98 wrote:
You can maybe update the point scales like the UEFA-coefficients but including the races under the WT.
Three classes:
Champions League: GT2, GT1, 1.WT
Europa League: 2.WT, 1.WT2
National competitions: 1.1, 2.1, 1.BC, 2.BC, 1.2, 2.2
and what about japanese and other races.
maybe i know a better thing.
we can rename some stages and give them another country.
this way we can divide the 1.1 2.1 1.HC 2.HC 1.2 2.2
so they get a fair division.
But it won't be Europa League or Champions League.
UCI = World Championships
PCT = World Club Championships
CT = National Leagues
(because it's Intercontinental, and not european) |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:22
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@Coolrex
They are like OPQS?
Those guys are all great climbers, often even better punchers, some of them are also elite sprinters, all of them good or great TTists, and at the same time, they are also beasts on the flat and sometimes good cobblers. At the same time, their RES is sometimes terrible and REC attached to STA is also weird to see.
This is a team of all-around monsters.
Not to mention that Neuer's lowest stat is 78. 
As said will try to get an own out myself, but I am fairly busy atm so will try to do it asap.
Edit:
Obviously it's very hard to get the stats right, but there should be paid a big amount of attention to. This is not the solution yet if you ask me.
Edited by Jesleyh on 01-03-2015 19:23
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:33
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Jesleyh wrote:
@Coolrex
They are like OPQS?
Those guys are all great climbers, often even better punchers, some of them are also elite sprinters, all of them good or great TTists, and at the same time, they are also beasts on the flat and sometimes good cobblers. At the same time, their RES is sometimes terrible and REC attached to STA is also weird to see.
This is a team of all-around monsters.
Not to mention that Neuer's lowest stat is 78.
As said will try to get an own out myself, but I am fairly busy atm so will try to do it asap.
Edit:
Obviously it's very hard to get the stats right, but there should be paid a big amount of attention to. This is not the solution yet if you ask me.
but what if everyone is like this.
it will be a real battle in the TDF to win,
just like FIFA, it needs more difficulty.
and besides, less clubs like LA Galaxy will have less better players.
this is just better, maybe it works. or you must have something better |
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| coolrex |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:52
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Maybe it's better to compare,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3k7v0uoocml....xlsx?dl=0 |
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 01-03-2015 19:58
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coolrex wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
@Coolrex
They are like OPQS?
Those guys are all great climbers, often even better punchers, some of them are also elite sprinters, all of them good or great TTists, and at the same time, they are also beasts on the flat and sometimes good cobblers. At the same time, their RES is sometimes terrible and REC attached to STA is also weird to see.
This is a team of all-around monsters.
Not to mention that Neuer's lowest stat is 78.
As said will try to get an own out myself, but I am fairly busy atm so will try to do it asap.
Edit:
Obviously it's very hard to get the stats right, but there should be paid a big amount of attention to. This is not the solution yet if you ask me.
but what if everyone is like this.
it will be a real battle in the TDF to win,
just like FIFA, it needs more difficulty.
and besides, less clubs like LA Galaxy will have less better players.
this is just better, maybe it works. or you must have something better
Believe me, there's no way PCM can handle that. It also makes absolutely no sense to make every good footballer an allround beast. Let's see what modifications Jesley makes to the system.
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