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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-06-2014 06:54
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Kritzo wrote:
Talking about the cobbled stage, I could really see Breschel going to Le Tour this year, because of that stage especially!
Because he would have any chance against likes of Boonen or Sagan.
But he would be surely huge helping hand to Conta and Roman.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-06-2014 06:59
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Jacdk wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
And so begins the fourth consecutive sky victory in the Dauphine
Easy now.
first of all it was only a 10.5km TT that was not that hard.
Second the first 25 riders came in within a gap of 25sec´s to the winner Froome.
So the TT didn´t prove anything other than we have all the top riders in good form and it will all come down to the mountains and who is best there.
But i kinda agree that it looks like Froomstrong will destroy them all and go into the tour a win ahead of all the others.
You alone told the story in two bolded parts. You simply cant crush opposition on such a short course month a nd a half before you main season target. If you are not Froome...
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| CountArach |
Posted on 09-06-2014 09:02
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Today's stage is going to be really ugly. The finishing climb is ideal for the sky train - consistent and under 8% almost the whole way up. I bet on a repeat of Belles Filles.
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 09-06-2014 09:39
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
And so begins the fourth consecutive sky victory in the Dauphine
Easy now.
first of all it was only a 10.5km TT that was not that hard.
Second the first 25 riders came in within a gap of 25sec´s to the winner Froome.
So the TT didn´t prove anything other than we have all the top riders in good form and it will all come down to the mountains and who is best there.
But i kinda agree that it looks like Froomstrong will destroy them all and go into the tour a win ahead of all the others.
You alone told the story in two bolded parts. You simply cant crush opposition on such a short course month a nd a half before you main season target. If you are not Froome...
Here is a breakdown of riders within 8 seconds.
#1 to #2 (1 rider, +08" )
#2 to #20 (18 riders, within +16" )
#20 to #35 (15 riders, +24" )
#34 to #52 (18 riders, +32" )
#52 to #65 (13 riders, +40" )
#65 to #91 (26 riders, +48" )
#91 to #110 (19 riders, +56" )
#110 to #122 (12 riders, +1'04" )
#122 to #134 (12 riders, +1'12" )
#134 to #147 (13 riders, +1'20" )
#147 to #156 (11 riders, +1'28" )
#156 to #168, times get sporadic for the last few riders as they probably had issues on the road.
An average of 15.7 riders finished within 8 seconds in each of those groups (not counting the group for Froome to Contador).
Edited by Kentaurus on 09-06-2014 09:58
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| RJCPS |
Posted on 09-06-2014 09:51
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
And so begins the fourth consecutive sky victory in the Dauphine
Easy now.
first of all it was only a 10.5km TT that was not that hard.
Second the first 25 riders came in within a gap of 25sec´s to the winner Froome.
So the TT didn´t prove anything other than we have all the top riders in good form and it will all come down to the mountains and who is best there.
But i kinda agree that it looks like Froomstrong will destroy them all and go into the tour a win ahead of all the others.
You alone told the story in two bolded parts. You simply cant crush opposition on such a short course month a nd a half before you main season target. If you are not Froome...
The comments in this thread are getting disgusting....
Mind you I'm not naive enough to believe Froome isn't doping and you won't see me in the surprised crowd whenever he gets busted, but today's stage showed nothing in that regard...
Who were the TT guys on yesterday's stage? Jungels and.....Bobridge (who upon seeing that he wouldn't beat Jungels eased of in the final metres)? Who else was there who was an actual contender for the stage besides the two favourites? (and this is being rather kind to the convicted doper, as Contador was never a good TT guy, winning a TDF with his TT skills against that TT machine Andy Schleck does not make one a good TT'er).
The fact that Froome wins a TT with a climb and flat sections when there is no proper TT specialists on the field is nothing surprising. Would the TT be all climbing and finished there, Nibali would win as he was on top of the standings by then...would the TT be all flat and Froome probably would not get it, as the fastest guy on the flat was Jungels! And ffs Jungels!
About the logic of not being able to give a few seconds advantage (to a non TT'er) one month before is prime goal of the season...guess what, said non-TT'er is also one month away from his prime goal of the season so, if both are let's say at 80%, the beating would have to be the same as if both were at 100%. I don't get that logic...Froome not being 100% is no different than what all the other main contenders are in their preparation right now so I really don't get this logic as I don't see Contador and Nibali having CD as their main objective for the season either.
It would be a lot more surprising and suspicious if freaking Contador won the TT (although mitigated by the fact that it had a small climb in the middle, just as it helps the case of Froome winning this one) and he was second...that is much more suspicious than Froome ending up winning this one.
Nonetheless, if today Froome puts on a....let's say less than human exhibition on the climb than some case against him may be made once again but NOT based on yesterday's TT. People don't like Froome, we get it but stop with this non-sense and criticize only when applicable please. Save for today's stage and the next days, as I believe you'll have much more valid points. But based on yesterday's stage it annoys me that people are just shouting stuff just because Froome/Sky won something. |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 09-06-2014 10:08
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Spoiler RJCPS wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
jsh312mufc wrote:
And so begins the fourth consecutive sky victory in the Dauphine
Easy now.
first of all it was only a 10.5km TT that was not that hard.
Second the first 25 riders came in within a gap of 25sec´s to the winner Froome.
So the TT didn´t prove anything other than we have all the top riders in good form and it will all come down to the mountains and who is best there.
But i kinda agree that it looks like Froomstrong will destroy them all and go into the tour a win ahead of all the others.
You alone told the story in two bolded parts. You simply cant crush opposition on such a short course month a nd a half before you main season target. If you are not Froome...
The comments in this thread are getting disgusting....
Mind you I'm not naive enough to believe Froome isn't doping and you won't see me in the surprised crowd whenever he gets busted, but today's stage showed nothing in that regard...
Who were the TT guys on yesterday's stage? Jungels and.....Bobridge (who upon seeing that he wouldn't beat Jungels eased of in the final metres)? Who else was there who was an actual contender for the stage besides the two favourites? (and this is being rather kind to the convicted doper, as Contador was never a good TT guy, winning a TDF with his TT skills against that TT machine Andy Schleck does not make one a good TT'er).
The fact that Froome wins a TT with a climb and flat sections when there is no proper TT specialists on the field is nothing surprising. Would the TT be all climbing and finished there, Nibali would win as he was on top of the standings by then...would the TT be all flat and Froome probably would not get it, as the fastest guy on the flat was Jungels! And ffs Jungels!
About the logic of not being able to give a few seconds advantage (to a non TT'er) one month before is prime goal of the season...guess what, said non-TT'er is also one month away from his prime goal of the season so, if both are let's say at 80%, the beating would have to be the same as if both were at 100%. I don't get that logic...Froome not being 100% is no different than what all the other main contenders are in their preparation right now so I really don't get this logic as I don't see Contador and Nibali having CD as their main objective for the season either.
It would be a lot more surprising and suspicious if freaking Contador won the TT (although mitigated by the fact that it had a small climb in the middle, just as it helps the case of Froome winning this one) and he was second...that is much more suspicious than Froome ending up winning this one.
Nonetheless, if today Froome puts on a....let's say less than human exhibition on the climb than some case against him may be made once again but NOT based on yesterday's TT. People don't like Froome, we get it but stop with this non-sense and criticize only when applicable please. Save for today's stage and the next days, as I believe you'll have much more valid points. But based on yesterday's stage it annoys me that people are just shouting stuff just because Froome/Sky won something.
Jungels is hardly a randomer. Junior TT World Champ. |
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| Kentaurus |
Posted on 09-06-2014 10:22
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Who were the TT guys on yesterday's stage? Jungels and.....Bobridge (who upon seeing that he wouldn't beat Jungels eased of in the final metres)? Who else was there who was an actual contender for the stage besides the two favourites?
Well... Kiryienka was 4th at Worlds last year, 3rd in 2012, guess that is a nobody...
Van Garderen was 4th in the Worlds at 2012...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 09-06-2014 10:30
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Also Contador was never good TT guy, nice joke mate. 
He only won like ten TTs in major races, including beating Cancellara at Tour TT. He is in beast form this year and still it is not enough to beat mr. Frrome, laughable TTrider just four years back, who never won a TT before year 2013.
Now he beats whole field ( including prologue/TT specialists in top form, like Barta, Jungels, Bodnar, Kiryenka, Tejay) by 8 seconds, in just 10kms.
Yeah, not worth mentioning...
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 09-06-2014 10:33
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| TimoCycling |
Posted on 09-06-2014 10:35
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I agree with Avin, 8 seconds is huge if you look at the other margins in the top 10. He is just stupidly good already, maybe peaking too early? |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 09-06-2014 10:39
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TimoCycling wrote:
I agree with Avin, 8 seconds is huge if you look at the other margins in the top 10. He is just stupidly good already, maybe peaking too early?
Froome.exe doesnt peak, he's either on or off.  |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 09-06-2014 10:49
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Posted on 09-06-2014 11:05
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@Luigi: saw it on facebook too, sad people who do that.... Luckily nothing stolen! |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 09-06-2014 12:40
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Meh, I knew I should have picked Kevin Reza for my velogames team. He's always so active in such a weeklong stage races. Brändle in breakaway too. 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 09-06-2014 12:50
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
TimoCycling wrote:
I agree with Avin, 8 seconds is huge if you look at the other margins in the top 10. He is just stupidly good already, maybe peaking too early?
Froome.exe doesnt peak, he's either on or off.
Lol yep he peaks all year round |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 09-06-2014 13:27
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Taaramäe crashed..and he was holding back yesterday to avoid all crash oportunitys.
and terrible timing
Edited by Guido Mukk on 09-06-2014 13:33
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| Pablo1890 |
Posted on 09-06-2014 13:34
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Only a few kilometres left until all my hope for an interesting TDF gets destroyed. Hooray! |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 09-06-2014 13:36
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Taaramäe crashed..and he was holding back yesterday to avoid all crash oportunitys.
and terrible timing
He has got back on but surely will srtruggle to make his way back to the front now
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 09-06-2014 13:39
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yep I have climbing legs ..then climbing is best place to move up at group. I dont believe he does..at least at the moment |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 09-06-2014 13:40
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Cunego has been such a joke this year |
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| lukaas |
Posted on 09-06-2014 13:40
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The gap is just melting away. |
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