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2008 Formula One Season
HKK
Aquarius wrote:
Renault is back, not at the top yet, but definitely back. Smile


Indeed. Hopefully tomorrow's qualifying will be good.
 
Karl_rab
Force india is aiming for a top 10 this weekend Pfft
really i quite like them, i really wish Prodrive would have been allowed in this season or if they had chosen Minardi Racing (who applied for a spot) Wink
now that would have been awesome. But seriously Piquet Jr will be good, its just a shame hes a Cocky Piece of S*** Pfft
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Aquarius
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Walkthrough for Ferrari this afternoon and tomorrow ?

Renault is back, but only at the 4th position as constructor.
 
Addy291
Hamilton's getting fasterSmile Coulthard is very fast in his Red BullSmile

But Ferrari look too fast for everyone, half a second between them and the nearest driverRolling Eyes
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issoisso
for the three billionth time Pfft PRACTICE MEANS NOTHING!

Look at the practice 3 results from previous races. what does it show? wow, Aguris, Red Bulls and Renaults in the top spots.

how many good results did they get, again?

get it out of your system guys, practice means zero. and when I say zero, I don't mean "it doesn't mean that much", I literally mean nothing at all.

Practice is used to set up the car, trying different stuff with the setup and tyre compounds. every driver is running in a completely different program, and none of them is concerned with fast times even in the slightest.
Edited by issoisso on 26-04-2008 12:44
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Aquarius
I assume they don't really mean zero, every driver tried in at least one of the three practices to drive one fast lap before the qualifications.
We'll see in 15 minutes but I wouldn't be surprised if the starting line looked a bit like the table above (barring crashes, engines explosions, etc.). Wink
 
issoisso
Addy291 wrote:
Coulthard is very fast in his Red BullSmile


told ya practice meant nothing Pfft Wink
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Crommy
I would have disagreed with you issoisso, but given the above, I'd actually say it means less than nothing Rolling Eyes
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Dankan
Fernando. Who else? Shock
 
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Addy291
The starting grid for Barcelona:

1. RAIKKONEN Ferrari
2. ALONSO Renault
3. MASSA Ferrari
4. KUBICA BMW
5. HAMILTON McLaren
6. KOVALAINEN McLaren
7. WEBBER Red Bull
8. TRULLI Toyota
9. HEIDFELD BMW
10. PIQUET Renault
11. BARRICHELLO Honda
12. NAKAJIMA Williams
13. BUTTON Honda
14. GLOCK Toyota
15. ROSBERG Williams
16. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso
17. COULTHARD Red Bull
18. VETTEL Toro Rosso
19. FISICHELLA Force India
20. SUTIL Force India
21. DAVIDSON Super Aguri
22. SATO Super Aguri
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issoisso
The situation of the Renault team is pretty sad. Renault chairman Carlos Ghosn has said he'll end the team if they don't get results soon, so they had to resort to this. Putting almost no fuel in the cars so they'd have a great qualifying.

It's going to be painful to be a renault fan tomorrow when they stop early and completely disappear from any chance of winning the race.

I'd expect this kind of PR stunt from Toyota, but not Renault. Just goes to show what people will do when they're put in a desperate situation.

Even Alonso said his best hope for tomorrow is seventh position, which is basically admitting it was just a PR stunt.

Or as SpeedTV's Steve Matchett put it: "the only objective Renault has with this is selling more Twingos"
Edited by issoisso on 26-04-2008 18:18
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Aquarius
Renault has almost always been in F1 with the objective to sell more twingos. I guess the same goes for all popular constructors involved in F1.

Alonso was about one second slower than in Q1 & Q2 though, so he wasn't totally empty. Wink Yet I tend to share your point of view, I can't see them as podium contenders for tomorrow. Top 5 would already be an achievement, especially if Piquet also scores at least one point.
 
issoisso
oh and Álvaro Parente has made me eat crow on my previous comment that he was nothing special.

First ever driver to win on his GP2 debut. this is most likely an anomaly, but if he keeps this up (unlikely), that means he's a real talent.
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CrueTrue
Bye, bye Alonso. :lol:
 
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Addy291
Button was imense todaySmile A very predictable race, but there was plenty of crashes/people bowing out.

The Kovalainen crash looked badFrown
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CrueTrue
Super Aguri has decided to withdraw from F1 due to financial trouble.
 
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issoisso
That's just sad. Super Best Friends F1 was the best thing that's happened to F1 in a long time Sad

They were always so cheerful and friendly to everyone...too bad.
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Aquarius
Yep, quite sad for them. Seems like it's Nick Fry from Honda who sabotaged Weigl's plans to save them (Weigl didn't want to pay S.A.'s debts to Honda).
 
Karl_rab
Massa tops the charts
Kovalainen second on comeback
Heikki Kovalainen bounced back strongly from his high-speed smash in Spain but it was defending champion Felipe Massa who topped the charts after first practice for the Turkish Grand Prix.

First free practice

1. Felipe Massa (Brazil) Ferrari 1 min 27.323 secs
2. Heikki Kovalainen (Finland) McLaren 1:27.456
3. Lewis Hamilton (Britain) McLaren 1:27.752
4. Fernando Alonso (Spain) Renault 1:28.284
5. Jenson Button (Britain) Honda 1:28.919
6. Kazuki Nakajima (Japan) Williams - Toyota 1:29.002
7. Nick Heidfeld (Germany) BMW Sauber 1:29.024
8. Rubens Barrichello (Brazil) Honda 1:29.068
9. Nelson Piquet (Brazil) Renault 1:29.082
10. Timo Glock (Germany) Toyota 1:29.103
11. Jarno Trulli (Italy) Toyota 1:29.329
12. Robert Kubica (Poland) BMW Sauber 1:29.330
13. Nico Rosberg (Germany) Williams - Toyota 1:29.367
14. Adrian Sutil (Germany) Force India - Ferrari 1:29.756
15. Giancarlo Fisichella (Italy) Force India - Ferrari 1:29.811
16. Mark Webber (Australia) RedBull - Renault 1:30.088
17. David Coulthard (Britain) RedBull - Renault 1:30.340
18. Sebastien Bourdais (France) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:30.388
19. Sebastian Vettel (Germany) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:30.426
20. Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) Ferrari 1:30.732
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Karl_rab
Practice 2: Raikkonen bounces back

Kimi Raikkonen bounced back from his morning gearbox problem to head the field in the second practice session for the Turkish Grand Prix. But intriguing ahead of tomorrow’s qualifying session, while Raikkonen set his best time at the end of a series of runs on the harder compound rubber, Hamilton’s came on his first lap on the softer tyres. Red Bull’s David Coulthard made the biggest gains late on to slot into a competitive fourth, ahead of McLaren’s Heikki Kovalainen and the lead BMW of Robert Kubica. But while Coulthard enjoyed a strong session, his team-mate Mark Webber was limited to just four laps after crashing his RB4 into a barrier exiting turn six at the 30-minute mark. His car came to rest back on the circuit and he climbed out unaided, but the crash brought out the red flag while marshals cleared his car and the shattered carbon fibre.


Full report and session times to follow… Wink
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