wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Ah cool, I'll have a watch. Still, wouldn't that have been a thriller if that had been stage 20 and there was a procession stage for the 21st?
Only if Pedro Delgado had been racing.
Now it's isso or whoever's turn to come and correct me. Am I mistaken that Delgado once attacked on the Champs to try and make back a 30s or so deficit?
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Ah cool, I'll have a watch. Still, wouldn't that have been a thriller if that had been stage 20 and there was a procession stage for the 21st?
I got your point, i just think that 100th edition should see some speciality in the last day,it would be cool somewhat.
Is there any news if STAPS will continue working as coach for their team? They joinded together with Holczer last year. They coach and make performance measurement for Degenkolb, Martin and Greipel as well.
The Giro once ended at the top of the Stelvio.
With the two contenders seconds apart on GC and trying to drop each other.
Epic.
I thought it ended with a final TT...
There's no set tradition for the Giro. It'll end with anything. If the UCI hadn't outlawed split stages, 2006 was set to end with a mountain TT on the Madonna del Ghisallo in the morning and a flat stage in the afternoon.
Deadpool wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Ah cool, I'll have a watch. Still, wouldn't that have been a thriller if that had been stage 20 and there was a procession stage for the 21st?
Only if Pedro Delgado had been racing.
Now it's isso or whoever's turn to come and correct me. Am I mistaken that Delgado once attacked on the Champs to try and make back a 30s or so deficit?
No idea.
Zoetemelk once tried. Hinault personally went after him and beat him in in the sprint for the stage win.
Deadpool wrote:
Wait, Roger de Vlaeminck finished fourth that year? Must've been a weak field or a flat course.
Bertolgio won, Galdos 2nd, and Gimondi well back in third. I'm going with weak field. The guys in 5th and 8th don't even have wikipedia pages.
De Vlaeminck could climb extremely well. Of the seven stages he won in that Giro, 2 were major mountain stages. But he was inconsistent. He lost 4 minutes on the first mountain finish and a bunch more on the Stelvio.
Still finished 4th due to time bonuses (7 stage wins, better than Merckx) and several of the contenders losing 10 minutes or more in single days due to De Vlaeminck's aggression in the hills leaving them behind splits.
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De Vlaeminck was possibly even a better climber than Merckx himself. That's open for discussion, of course, but imo he was. Though Merckx was better all around, and had endless stamina and fighting spirit.
Not really good for Italian cycling with both Utensilnord stopping and Acqua & Sapone too. There'll be two PCT spots open now.
Edit: MTN will probably take one spot. Endura merges with NetApp so the best and probably only conti teams left able to go PCT is Christina Watches.
Edited by Wilier on 08-10-2012 17:59
Deadpool wrote:
Wait, Roger de Vlaeminck finished fourth that year? Must've been a weak field or a flat course.
Bertolgio won, Galdos 2nd, and Gimondi well back in third. I'm going with weak field. The guys in 5th and 8th don't even have wikipedia pages.
De Vlaeminck could climb extremely well. Of the seven stages he won in that Giro, 2 were major mountain stages. But he was inconsistent. He lost 4 minutes on the first mountain finish and a bunch more on the Stelvio.
Still finished 4th due to time bonuses (7 stage wins, better than Merckx) and several of the contenders losing 10 minutes or more in single days due to De Vlaeminck's aggression in the hills leaving them behind splits.
That's true, and is irrelevant to what I said (well, the inconsistent part is relevant). He certainly didn't do as well in Tours with significant amounts of riding in the high mountains, because of that inconsistency (and how it's much easier to lose ten minutes then it is to gain, say 5).
Ian Butler wrote:
De Vlaeminck was possibly even a better climber than Merckx himself. That's open for discussion, of course, but imo he was. Though Merckx was better all around, and had endless stamina and fighting spirit.
Worth remembering too that Merckx becomes an entirely different climber when he gets punched in the kidney, which I think is around this time.
Edited by Deadpool on 08-10-2012 18:21
Do they have a chance to do a decent Job without Rujano??? I mean Pellizotti is going to be 35 next Year and he didnt won a single race this Year, on the other hand Colnago without Pozzovivo is not too strong, Acqua & Sapone exist no more and Farnese Vini isnt too strong also.
