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Bushwackers
Maybe Danny Pate will try something, but I doubt it. He is more of a team mate at this race.
 
Alakagom
He'll be always a team mate at Sky. Rogers might attack, and EBH will try to follow Gerrans/Valverde in final stages. Rogers might set up something with EBH, but Pate won't go for anything.
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Bushwackers
Well Danny can beat Rogers any day, maybe not EBH though.
 
Ste117
Im sure Ligget and Sherwin think they are on a mid winter holiday, going into detail about the beach and holiday hotspots lol.

I am jeleous that its hot weather there and im sat here drinking a hot chocalote in mid winter.

Got to be Valverde for today Grin
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Alakagom
Bushwackers wrote:
Well Danny can beat Rogers any day, maybe not EBH though.



I don't doubt Pate potential, he's awesome team mate but he never showed much in stages like that, while Rogers is definitely a better climber any day.
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valverde321
Feels good to be watching cycling again Pfft

Valverde or Hesjedal to win today Pfft
 
brewers90
Bushwackers wrote:
Well Danny can beat Rogers any day, maybe not EBH though.


Is this serious??

I reckon Gerrans will be tough to beat though today.
Edited by brewers90 on 21-01-2012 02:37
 
Teddy The Creator
I'm very excited for the finish. Interested to see how Edvald will go. And yes, as valverde said, feels good to watch cycling again. Grin
 
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Alakagom
Come on Alex, doing grand job so far.
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valverde321
Im imagining how wasted I'd be, if I was playing the Liggett and Sherwen drinking game Pfft

Don't you get a shot for every time they compare the location to France? Smile
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Ste117
lol, I would like to play that game, but seriously Sky can't report cycling, presenter and Boardman stop poking in with your nonsense comments, where are Harmon and Kelly when you need them Grin
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Bushwackers
Alakagom wrote:
Bushwackers wrote:
Well Danny can beat Rogers any day, maybe not EBH though.



I don't doubt Pate potential, he's awesome team mate but he never showed much in stages like that, while Rogers is definitely a better climber any day.


Only because he has rarely had the opportunity to work for himself. It is almost laughable to call Rogers a better climber, seeing as Danny pate has podiumed in a Tour de France summit finish, while Rogers has never even come close.
 
Squire
Ste117 wrote:
lol, I would like to play that game, but seriously Sky can't report cycling, presenter and Boardman stop poking in with your nonsense comments, where are Harmon and Kelly when you need them Grin


Phil and Paul aren't too bad now that Armstrong's gone. And Boardman knows his cycling. It's just the presenter guy that's an absolute tool. Making a big deal out of the fact that a breakaway formed: "And it was so eeearly!"
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Teddy The Creator
Is it just me, or have you heard the explanation of the pronunciation of Leopard from Phil and Paul about 5 times? Pfft

Who calls it Le - pid still? :lol:
Edited by Teddy The Creator on 21-01-2012 02:54
 
Ste117
I dont think Phil and Paul are bad, I just find Boardman and the presenter really boring, the presenter highlights simple things everyone knows and then repeat them all night, Im just like Harmon and Kelly more.
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Alakagom
Bushwackers wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Bushwackers wrote:
Well Danny can beat Rogers any day, maybe not EBH though.



I don't doubt Pate potential, he's awesome team mate but he never showed much in stages like that, while Rogers is definitely a better climber any day.


Only because he has rarely had the opportunity to work for himself. It is almost laughable to call Rogers a better climber, seeing as Danny pate has podiumed in a Tour de France summit finish, while Rogers has never even come close.


Tony Martin finished 2nd on Mont Ventoux in 2009. That doesn't say he's good GC rider, as he's not ( or didn't prove it yet ). Did you check Rogers week stage races and GT's ? They're are kinda better's than Pate. If Pate is so good, he would have already been given chance to prove it long time ago. Simpy he isn't Wink

Although again, he's is one hell of great domestique.
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Squire
Ste117 wrote:
I dont think Phil and Paul are bad, I just find Boardman and the presenter really boring, the presenter highlights simple things everyone knows and then repeat them all night, Im just like Harmon and Kelly more.


I agree with you. Kelly is one hell of an expert commentator. I'm amazed by how often he gets his predictions right. If only he didn't sound like he's bored out of his skin most of the time.

My small long shot bet on Ballan for the stage win doesn't look good, as he's working his socks off on the front.

Looking forward to see Valverde destroy the field Cool
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brewers90
Bushwackers wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
Bushwackers wrote:
Well Danny can beat Rogers any day, maybe not EBH though.



I don't doubt Pate potential, he's awesome team mate but he never showed much in stages like that, while Rogers is definitely a better climber any day.


Only because he has rarely had the opportunity to work for himself. It is almost laughable to call Rogers a better climber, seeing as Danny pate has podiumed in a Tour de France summit finish, while Rogers has never even come close.


It gets worse. Are you for real? I understand that you're from the same place as him, so you're allowed to be a fan, but that statement is pretty much 100% wrong. If he was a top climber he would have shown it by now.

Laughable is the key word.
 
Bushwackers
By that logic, if Rogers was a better climber, then he would have mountain stage results as well. But Danny simply hasn't been on a team that has allowed him to display his full potential. Even in the few times that he has had a free role, he has gotten results time after time. But this is beside the point. If Pate and Rogers were given an equal leadership role throughout this race, Danny would outperform him 7 out of 10 times. I don't care if Rogers has higher stats in PCM, because in real life it doesn't matter.

And I'm not saying that Rogers is a bad climber, I'm just saying that Danny is probably better.
 
Bushwackers
brewers90 wrote:


It gets worse. Are you for real? I understand that you're from the same place as him, so you're allowed to be a fan, but that statement is pretty much 100% wrong. If he was a top climber he would have shown it by now.

Laughable is the key word.


He has shown it, that's what I'm saying. But what he has shown has only been a glimpse, due to unfavorable circumstances.
 
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