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Expansion Pack: Stat Discussion
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| Wild Dog |
Posted on 27-07-2011 12:03
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Pierre Rolland should have more in TT. Ca. 64-66  |
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| gilles23 |
Posted on 27-07-2011 15:54
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BouBBox wrote:
The Mountain Lion wrote:
Rolland really should have a higher MO-stat than Danielson. He finished ahead of him on all 4 mountaintop finish stages in the tour and was 3:37min ahead of Danielson on those stages.
Then Danielson should have less 
Also another ennoying thing, R. Sicard as he has 80 in fighter, has a fighter potential : 5 stars on flat, only 1 Mo, which is quite unrealistic...
Just the same as last year. I always changed his potential in mountain, hills, tt and recuperation
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| Rayden |
Posted on 27-07-2011 16:13
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BouBBox wrote:
The Mountain Lion wrote:
Rolland really should have a higher MO-stat than Danielson. He finished ahead of him on all 4 mountaintop finish stages in the tour and was 3:37min ahead of Danielson on those stages.
Then Danielson should have less
Also another ennoying thing, R. Sicard as he has 80 in fighter, has a fighter potential : 5 stars on flat, only 1 Mo, which is quite unrealistic...
... and Voeckler should at least have the same stats as Contador, as he managed to finish ahead of him  |
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| Indurain |
Posted on 27-07-2011 16:22
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Hushovd wins paris nice not once but twice... He road a incredibly strong Tour but i think hes a bit overrated in the DB. |
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| kissaha |
Posted on 27-07-2011 16:43
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Indurain wrote:
Hushovd wins paris nice not once but twice... He road a incredibly strong Tour but i think hes a bit overrated in the DB.
Did you play or simulate? If you play, there is no way he is going to win it. |
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| Indurain |
Posted on 28-07-2011 13:13
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kissaha wrote:
Indurain wrote:
Hushovd wins paris nice not once but twice... He road a incredibly strong Tour but i think hes a bit overrated in the DB.
Did you play or simulate? If you play, there is no way he is going to win it.
First time sim second time play... |
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| kissaha |
Posted on 28-07-2011 13:44
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Indurain wrote:
kissaha wrote:
Indurain wrote:
Hushovd wins paris nice not once but twice... He road a incredibly strong Tour but i think hes a bit overrated in the DB.
Did you play or simulate? If you play, there is no way he is going to win it.
First time sim second time play...
I've just reached the second season myself, and P-N has a quite easy profile almost without any difficulties. And I think 3 of the hilly stages have a flat finish, and the only hill finish is in Mende? |
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| iRelly247 |
Posted on 30-07-2011 22:29
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I just downloaded the database yesterday and after playing I think Peter Velits time trial stat is too low he won stage 17 of the Vuelta a Espana 2010 beating many others and got 10th in stage 20 of the Tour de France this year. His time trial stat is only 74 and I think he deserves a stat more like 76 to 78 but apart from that I think the ratings are the best yet
Edited by iRelly247 on 30-07-2011 22:33
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| HuDCC |
Posted on 31-07-2011 11:44
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I have looked on Leopold Konig's stats and I think he is underrated. He is one of the biggest Czech Republic's talents! And he was 2nd at Tour of Austria this year! He can be very good climber in next years 
Thank you Andy for everything!
Thanks to the_hoyle for banner! |
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| mehmehmehmeh |
Posted on 31-07-2011 18:19
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A few of the young Aussies seem to me to be underrated, I think Michael Matthews should have a couple more sprint and acceleration (he did win a stage of tour down under this year as well as U23 WC and several stages in some pretty good continental races last year), Jack Bobridge should be higher in TT and potential, he's been dominating Pursuit racing on the track this year and is a similar sort of rider to Wiggins was when he was younger, and Cameron Meyer is wildly underrated, given he's won 4 track world cup events this year, is a 2 time national time trial champion (though it is true that many of our better TT riders don't compete at the nationals), won the Tour Down Under this year and finished 3rd behind Boassen Hagen and Cancellara at the Tour Of Oman last year. |
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| purepasd |
Posted on 02-08-2011 20:59
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I_Mayo wrote:
There is no way Andy is at the same level as Contador. And imo Anton is the second best climber in the world (just wait for Vuelta this year or watch Vuelta 2010 before his crash)
83:
Contador
82:
Anton
A.Schleck
If we had one day mountain classics, than Rujano would be big favourite for each of it. But he sometimes has bad days in longer races, so his recovery should be lower. Watch Giro 2011 for Scarponi and Gadret.
81:
Rujano (recovery 73-74)
Gadret
Scarponi
S.Sanchez
F.Schleck
Evans
Basso
Want to give Rodriguez higher, because of his attacking style of riding, but he sometimes cracks after attacks, so 80 could be good. It seems that you need one season to forget about Menchov, this is still 2x winnter of Vuelta and 1x winner of Giro, so don't count him of so early.
80:
Van Den Broeck
Nibali
Menchov
Purito
I agree pretty much with you. Though, i think Scarponi need to be maximum 80 in the mountain stat - remember he got the national bonus. Nibali is 80, but stamina should be lowered, as mentioned earlier.
I don't know if Gadret should have 80 or 81. If 81, he should have his secondary stats lowered a bit.
I think Voeckler should get 78 in the mountain. He was great in the Tour, but again.. Remember the national bonus. He got pretty awesome res, rec and sta though, so maybe 77. I don't know
I agree (don't remember who said it), that the recuparation stat isn't used well in most cases. The stats are often given in sequence of who was the best overall. But great stats in the DB. Best for a long time. Good job Siwer! |
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| Paeti |
Posted on 02-08-2011 21:39
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Really looking forward for the full DB.
I only don't like the high limits for some riders like AC,Andy and Sanchez with 85 on mountain.
And another thing: Marcel Kittel should get about 85 in sprint  
No not really, but a good potential! |
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| jokovic |
Posted on 02-08-2011 22:55
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Paeti wrote:
Really looking forward for the full DB.
I only don't like the high limits for some riders like AC,Andy and Sanchez with 85 on mountain.
And another thing: Marcel Kittel should get about 85 in sprint
No not really, but a good potential!
yeah he should have 77-78 als galimzaynoz should have 78 i think and a hight potential like peati said  |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 04-08-2011 04:45
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Stephan Poulhies (Saur-Sojasun) might need a boost in his hill stat to maybe 71 or so. He came in 2nd at the Circuito De Getxo, which finishes on an 800 metre hill climb, and in which Joaquin Rodriguez came 3rd.
https://www.cyclin...11/results
He also held onto the favourites group at the first stage of the Paris-Corrèze, including some half-decent puncheurs like Geslin, De Waele and Fedrigo:
https://www.cyclin...-1/results
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| Nookie_85 |
Posted on 05-08-2011 15:57
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Tony Martins Hill Stat (73) is much too low. He just won Paris-Nice this year. In the mountains he have problems to keep up with the best but on hill-stages he is great. Just look the first week of the TDF. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 05-08-2011 15:59
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Nookie_85 wrote:
Tony Martins Hill Stat (73) is much too low. He just won Paris-Nice this year. In the mountains he have problems to keep up with the best but on hill-stages he is great. Just look the first week of the TDF.
I think 73 is fine for him. He won PN because the hilly stages was very easy, plus that the route included a long timetrial, where he gained lots of time on the others.
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| Nookie_85 |
Posted on 05-08-2011 17:44
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like i said. look at the first week of the TDF.
He also won the mountain-jersey of PN and Tour de Swiss in 2009
And he won the algarve-tour and was second at the tour de romandie this year.
Cmon 73 is just ridiculous. He is not a second Gilbert, but I think something between 75 and 77 would be quite fair.
Edited by Nookie_85 on 05-08-2011 17:47
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 06-08-2011 23:17
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Nookie_85 wrote:
like i said. look at the first week of the TDF.
He also won the mountain-jersey of PN and Tour de Swiss in 2009
And he won the algarve-tour and was second at the tour de romandie this year.
Cmon 73 is just ridiculous. He is not a second Gilbert, but I think something between 75 and 77 would be quite fair.
Fully agree. Now let me check the Dutch riders |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 07-08-2011 09:44
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Nookie_85 wrote:
like i said. look at the first week of the TDF.
He also won the mountain-jersey of PN and Tour de Swiss in 2009
And he won the algarve-tour and was second at the tour de romandie this year.
Cmon 73 is just ridiculous. He is not a second Gilbert, but I think something between 75 and 77 would be quite fair.
On the other hand if you look at his results in the Ardennes classics they are less than inspiring.
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| Nookie_85 |
Posted on 07-08-2011 14:13
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But with a Hill-stat of 73 he will never win a small tour in PCM. |
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