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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 17-05-2011 21:17
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From what I've read, the riders' problem isn't that such a list exists (which is the issue that McQuaid addresses) - it's that it was leaked to the press. I noticed this:
Riders – you are the only individuals able to access, at any time, all the analysis results of your profile, as recorded in your biological passport.
Well, after the leak of this list, how can the riders know for sure that suspicious passports aren't leaked too?
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That UCI has to prioritize the anti-doping tests is difficult to be against...
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| Crommy |
Posted on 17-05-2011 21:56
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On twitter, a lot of the riders seemed angry about the score they got, as well as the list being leaked
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| Crommy |
Posted on 20-05-2011 00:43
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 01:12
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If all the riders around Lance Armstrong were drugged... How could he not be? Considering how dominating he was back in his prime...
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| DJP19 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 02:07
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When are the accusations going to end. |
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| boork |
Posted on 20-05-2011 03:09
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DJP19 wrote:
When are the accusations going to end.
Probably when he finally confesses to being doped
I think more importantly is when will people stop trying to defend him? |
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| DJP19 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 04:33
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Im not going to get into anything in this thread. I love his most recent tweet though, "And in news from this century... there's an amazing bike race taking place in California. Thanks for supporting these amazing athletes." basically saying why are we still talking about this, ToC is going on. |
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| jack888 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 05:00
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Sorry if this is old news: https://online.wsj...33148.html
Another ex-teammate of cyclist Lance Armstrong on the former U.S. Postal Service cycling team has accused the seven-time Tour de France winner of using banned performance-enhancing substances during his career.
Why??? Why doesn't he just start a blog to share his news with the world.
Why must he insist on releasing his story to the most un-credible news source on the planet, the american mainstream media, namely 60 minutes. Especially during the Tour of California. What a muppet.
If he was payed even a cent for his interview (where i'm sure he was paid thousands), he can't be considered a credible source. Even if he is telling the 100% truth, he is an idiot and can't be trusted to tell an accurate story in interviews like that.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 20-05-2011 05:13
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jack888 wrote:
If he was payed even a cent for his interview (where i'm sure he was paid thousands), he can't be considered a credible source. Even if he is telling the 100% truth, he is an idiot and can't be trusted to tell an accurate story in interviews like that.
This is such a confusing paragraph to me. Are you saying that even if he is telling the truth, he can't be trusted to be telling the truth? I think I understand what you are getting at, but I'm just trying to be clear on it.
I find Hamilton to be a much more reliable and less bitter source than Landis and for me this is one of those things that just adds so much more to the Armstrong case. The fact that Armstrong's only defence against it was "he is changing his story" or, as quoted above, "Let's not pay attention to this, but rather to the ToC", shows me that they are worried. Of course he is changing his story - this is wht happens when there is a culture of silence about something that someone finally has the nerve to break.
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 20-05-2011 07:55
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Jens Voigt broke his scaphoid bone on wednesday. Quite a common cyclist injury. Lets see if this puts his tour prep in danger. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2011 08:37
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Hamilton confirms most of the stuff Floyd said, including the UCI hiding Armstrong's positive.
jack888 wrote:
Sorry if this is old news: https://online.wsj...33148.html
Another ex-teammate of cyclist Lance Armstrong on the former U.S. Postal Service cycling team has accused the seven-time Tour de France winner of using banned performance-enhancing substances during his career.
Why??? Why doesn't he just start a blog to share his news with the world.
Why must he insist on releasing his story to the most un-credible news source on the planet, the american mainstream media, namely 60 minutes. Especially during the Tour of California. What a muppet.
If he was payed even a cent for his interview (where i'm sure he was paid thousands), he can't be considered a credible source. Even if he is telling the 100% truth, he is an idiot and can't be trusted to tell an accurate story in interviews like that.
Like Floyd, Tyler refused to be paid anything for interviews, precisely to avoid that kind of accusation.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2011 08:44
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Meanwhile, another former Postal stalwart rider, Frankie Andreu, has publicly stated that he can verify everything Hamilton said as true.
Also, there's this statement:
I hope this finds you all doing well.
First of all, sorry for sending this out as a group letter. If there was any way I could come visit each of you individually, I would. I hope we are together soon.
There's no easy way to say this, so let me just say it plain: on Sunday night you'll see me on "60 Minutes" making a confession that's overdue. Long overdue.
During my cycling career, I knowingly broke the rules. I used performance-enhancing drugs. I lied about it, over and over. Worst of all, I hurt people I care about. And while there are reasons for what I did -- reasons I hope you'll understand better after watching -- it doesn't excuse the fact that I did it all, and there's no way on earth to undo it.
The question most people ask is, why now? There are two reasons. The first has to do with the federal investigation into cycling. Last summer, I received a subpoena to testify before a grand jury. Until that moment I walked into the courtroom, I hadn't told a soul. My testimony went on for six hours. For me, it was like the Hoover Dam breaking. I opened up; I told the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. And I felt a sense of relief I'd never felt before -- all the secrets, all the weight I'd been carrying around for years suddenly lifted. I saw that, for me personally, this was the way forward.
Tyler
Edited by issoisso on 20-05-2011 08:48
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 20-05-2011 09:01
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DJP19 wrote:
Im not going to get into anything in this thread. I love his most recent tweet though, "And in news from this century... there's an amazing bike race taking place in California. Thanks for supporting these amazing athletes." basically saying why are we still talking about this, ToC is going on.
No, that's him trying to deflect attention.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-05-2011 09:28
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Surprise, surprise.
Mr. Armstrong, please step forward.
Not that I really care all that much anymore. Even if he did confess, it's not going to shut up the fanboys anyway. |
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| jack888 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 09:31
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CountArach wrote:
jack888 wrote:
If he was payed even a cent for his interview (where i'm sure he was paid thousands), he can't be considered a credible source. Even if he is telling the 100% truth, he is an idiot and can't be trusted to tell an accurate story in interviews like that.
This is such a confusing paragraph to me. Are you saying that even if he is telling the truth, he can't be trusted to be telling the truth? I think I understand what you are getting at, but I'm just trying to be clear on it.
Sorry i wasn't very clear. What i was saying is that if your being paid for a TV interview***, you can't be taken as a reliable source of information. Mainly because the TV station are only going to pay him if he has something dramatic to say. And if Hamilton didn't tell them, they may have just gone and found a cyclist who will make the claim for money.
***(which isso has now pointed out is not the case here)
So if TV stations will pay you to say "Armstrong took drugs", anyone who is paid to go on a show like 60 minutes and say "Armstrong took dugs" can't be taken seriously. Also, these shows are known to only show one side of the story to make more drama.
I'd rather these cyclists just write an article themselves with their version of events, so it can be looked at by everyone and checked against the evidence. But if they insist on appearing on sensationalized TV shows, i guess they can be trusted if they aren't being paid for it. |
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| Anonymer |
Posted on 20-05-2011 09:33
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I really don't understand why they can't let go this, it really doesn't matter anymore if he doped a lot or just a bit  |
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| jack888 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 09:36
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issoisso wrote:
Like Floyd, Tyler refused to be paid anything for interviews, precisely to avoid that kind of accusation.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I do jump the gun with these things, i hate programs like 60 minutes. |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-05-2011 11:33
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jack888 wrote:
I'd rather these cyclists just write an article themselves with their version of events, so it can be looked at by everyone and checked against the evidence. But if they insist on appearing on sensationalized TV shows, i guess they can be trusted if they aren't being paid for it. Wouldn't you say they wrote the article for fame or money ?
And who insists on having them on TV shows ? TV producers or them ? Even if I insisted to be in one, I'm not sure I'd make it... |
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| jack888 |
Posted on 20-05-2011 11:56
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Aquarius wrote:
Wouldn't you say they wrote the article for fame or money ?
No, if they wrote a document and released it to the public. Their version of events is there in black and white for us to check against the evidence, to see if it is likely true or not. If they go on 60 minutes, or any show renowned for distorting evidence, we can't be sure if the whole story is being told to us.
And who insists on having them on TV shows ? TV producers or them ? Even if I insisted to be in one, I'm not sure I'd make it...
I'm just saying he has chosen to go on a sensationalized news program to release his story. Which doesn't help his cause one bit.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 20-05-2011 12:19
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jack888 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Wouldn't you say they wrote the article for fame or money ?
No, if they wrote a document and released it to the public. Their version of events is there in black and white for us to check against the evidence, to see if it is likely true or not. If they go on 60 minutes, or any show renowned for distorting evidence, we can't be sure if the whole story is being told to us
Surely even if they just wrote it down, you can't be sure the whole story is being told.
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