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Likeable and unlikeable doping sinners?
markene2
I dont have any hate against dopers really, it's probably nothing new to most of the "old" guys on the forums here.

Let's look back at GT winners from the last decade and see if anyone was suspected for doping or convicted.

As you see, there is quite a lot. Doping will never go away, we should not tolerate it though, but i have reached the limit. I am not judging athletes if they dope. I have been following cycling for a long time, and it's no suprise that many people get busted.

I will still welcome them back. Though it seems i am quite hated here on this forum for my view on this.
Venga Vino
 
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markene2 wrote:
I dont have any hate against dopers really, it's probably nothing new to most of the "old" guys on the forums here.

Let's look back at GT winners from the last decade and see if anyone was suspected for doping or convicted.

As you see, there is quite a lot. Doping will never go away, we should not tolerate it though, but i have reached the limit. I am not judging athletes if they dope. I have been following cycling for a long time, and it's no suprise that many people get busted.

I will still welcome them back. Though it seems i am quite hated here on this forum for my view on this.
If you don't want to judge the doped ones, won't you judge the clean and spoiled one either ?
Doesn't it seem wrong to you that the clean ones get spoiled ?
 
markene2
How do we know who are clean? If people have so much faith that certain riders are clean, then why cant you have faith in riders that return from suspension?
Venga Vino
 
Aquarius
I'm not saying X or Y is clean, although I could almost surely call some riders who're clean. Some others have a high probability to be clean, some have a lesser, some just have zero.
If some are clean, nevermind their names, never mind how many they are, they get spoiled by the doped ones. Which is unfair. So I can't accept and defend that.

Have you thought of the number of times a rider back from suspension to a good or top level has been caught again ? That's just huge.
 
markene2
Aquarius wrote:

Have you thought of the number of times a rider back from suspension to a good or top level has been caught again ? That's just huge.


That's something that bothers me, though we all know that riders returning from suspension to their former level are juiced. (probably). I still have hope that some doped riders will come back clean, or are racing clean like.

Thomas Frei.
David Millar.
Zirbel.
Dekker.

Two of them have returned though. And not at their former level. I have faith in these four, based on interviews, performances etc.

Though some riders who are back from suspenison that i do not belive are clean are.

Vino
Basso
Contador

Though Basso has lost his TT capabilities i still belive that he is doping.
Venga Vino
 
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