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Expansion Pack: Stat Discussions
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| andybandy |
Posted on 13-07-2010 17:01
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SSG is not superman... Andy and Conta went 100 % downhill and on the flat.
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| Likkivi |
Posted on 13-07-2010 17:53
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And the reason why he didn't catch them on the downhill is not because he doesn't have the ability. But he seemed a lot more pressured after the mountains and therefore couldn't catch up. I think SSG would have lost a lot more if he wasn't such a great downhiller. |
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| Macimate |
Posted on 13-07-2010 18:15
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Monier & De weert are showing potential in the mountains, definitely a couple of points up there. Wiggins lowered a bit. |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 13-07-2010 18:28
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De Weert should have 76 and Monier 74
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| Nota |
Posted on 13-07-2010 21:43
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Monier is a great fighter. 72-73 is enough for MO. |
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| Tooom3k |
Posted on 13-07-2010 21:59
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Waghlon wrote:
I think if we can justify giving Breschel 8x COB for showing an ability to do top 10's, maybe Samu's MO stat deserves another point after today.
Breschel has 80 COB 
And about Samuel... You think he should has less in MO after one day!? One day is nothing! Behind him were Menchov, Basso, Gesink. |
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| Ennyzor |
Posted on 13-07-2010 22:06
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Tooom3k wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
I think if we can justify giving Breschel 8x COB for showing an ability to do top 10's, maybe Samu's MO stat deserves another point after today.
Breschel has 80 COB
And about Samuel... You think he should has less in MO after one day!? One day is nothing! Behind him were Menchov, Basso, Gesink.
Im pretty sure he thinks Samuel should get a +1 or so in his MO stat  |
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Posted on 22-11-2024 12:54
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| facmanpob |
Posted on 14-07-2010 08:28
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Didn't Sanchez get to within 10 seconds of Contador and Schleck on the downhill, i.e. catch up over a minute of time lost on the climb?
the only reason he then finished 55 seconds behind at the finish was that hte last 5km were basically flat and Contador and Schleck were working together. |
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| Tooom3k |
Posted on 14-07-2010 09:02
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Ennyzor wrote:
Im pretty sure he thinks Samuel should get a +1 or so in his MO stat
I thought he mean that he should keep up with them if Voigt could for some time. But he was very tired and 80 in MO is enough for him. |
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| davey90 |
Posted on 14-07-2010 11:25
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Why is Egoi Martinez DH stat so low? |
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| davey90 |
Posted on 17-07-2010 17:01
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Vinokourov MUST have 85 in fighter. |
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| Gentleman |
Posted on 18-07-2010 11:34
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Steven Kruijswijk
His stats have already been upped, but I'm still seeing a potential of '5' there. Considering his talent, his performance after making the step to the Rabobank Pro team and his latest performances in the Giro, I feel that upping his potential to a 6 might be in place.
Perhaps a 6 is a bit too soon due to it being very early in his career, but I noticed he doesn't seem to be capable in improving any further in terms of mountains and hills. Considering his age I think he should be capable of improving in those aspects. So perhaps downgrading his mountain skills a bit (72-73) while giving his potential a little boost instead?
Jurgen Van Den Broeck
Still seems to have a few stat limits, just so you know If I recall correctly, TrueCrue said that those should be removed in the final version.
He's currently riding with a 77 mountain stat, but I believe he should equal at least Robert Gesink. His performances last year in the Vuelta were exceptionally good as well and in this year's Tour he displays that he's capable of leading uphill while other, in the DB and in theory stronger opponents, are only capable of following.
I would suggest to give him at least a potential of 6 (if not 7), or increase his climbing stats. I'm not familiar with his TT, so I am not sure which one of these options would suit him best. However, he should be stronger than he currently is in the DB.
Kevin de Weert
Having left a troublesome time behind him, he finally seems to show the talent people always thought he had. He's more than capable of following the second string climbers in the higher mountains, which leaves me wondering why he has a 66/70 stat for mountains/hills in the DB.
The last time I saw him in a GT he also displayed his capability of going uphill with the contenders, so it really surprised me that his stats are this average. This year he actually seems to perform even better in the mountains. He is probably one of those riders who only shows his teeth in the late stages of his career.
A potential of '4' is probably another limiter for improving any further than this. Considering his age (he's from 1982), I don't think he will improve much over his current form, so my suggestion would be to give him a 73/74 or 74/75 for mountain/hill stats. His potential will furthermore prevent him from getting much better, but I still feel he's improving. So perhaps a potential of 5 could be in place to justify his climbing stats. But even with a potential of 5 he shouldn't be getting much better than this.
Edited by Gentleman on 18-07-2010 11:43
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| andybandy |
Posted on 18-07-2010 11:47
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Hushovd down in sp (77-79), but better hill, mou and fighter. Don't know the stats in the beta though.
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| Gentleman |
Posted on 18-07-2010 12:09
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Thor Hushovd
I'm not seeing all the fuss about him not being a good sprinter. He was out due to an injury, so I don't believe he should be judged based on his sprints in the Tour right now. I think he is fine the way he is in the DB right now. In fact, I'm impressed how much of a comeback he has made, but I'm always impressed during these GTs. Look at Tyler Farrar, broken wrist, but still finishing in the top 5 at some stage.
John Gadret
Currently on a 78/74 stat in the DB, but I feel they could just as well be the other way around. Looking at his performance in the Giro and the current Tour, he seems to be doing a whole lot better in the steeper climbs rather than the actual mountains.
I'm not really familiar with John, but with his experience as a mountainbiker, theoretically he should be more gifted in the steep hills.
Jos van Emden
The current TT champion in The Netherlands seems to have put himself on display. Good results in the prologue (9th) and TT (12th) in the Giro and continuing the good results by beating all of the Dutch champions and specialists (Boom, Posthuma), his 72 for TT all of a sudden seems very meager. Perhaps a 75 would be more in place? Fact is, there's plenty of competition in the Dutch TT so it is not like you win when someone else has a bad day. There have to be at least 4 or 5 specialists with a bad day if you have to win by sheer luck - something which doesn't happen very often.
Edited by Gentleman on 18-07-2010 12:11
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| Nota |
Posted on 19-07-2010 21:57
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Voeckler's stats are not good for his style I think. He has this skills now:
FL 73
MO 73
HIL 76
DH 80
TT 64
STA 72
PRL 64
RES 73
REC 70
COB 66
FTR 84
SP 67
ACC 72
And he should be something like this:
FL 72
MO 73
HIL 74
DH 80
TT 64
STA 74
PRL 64
RES 77
REC 70
COB 66
FTR 84
SP 67
ACC 79 |
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| pittaln |
Posted on 20-07-2010 13:54
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After today I think Thor Hushovd deserves 70 MO and 82 FTR |
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| marble |
Posted on 20-07-2010 14:04
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There are alot of riders left in the peloton, many of them are helpers. Thor is barely staying in there, and he's trying his best. Don't overrate him. Also giving him 82 FTR will cause him to attack more than go for mass sprints, there is rarely any battle for the intermediate sprints in the game (at least from my experiences. |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 20-07-2010 14:11
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Nota wrote:
Voeckler's stats are not good for his style I think. He has this skills now:
FL 73
MO 73
HIL 76
DH 80
TT 64
STA 72
PRL 64
RES 73
REC 70
COB 66
FTR 84
SP 67
ACC 72
And he should be something like this:
FL 72
MO 73
HIL 74
DH 80
TT 64
STA 74
PRL 64
RES 77
REC 70
COB 66
FTR 84
SP 67
ACC 79
Yup but maybe a bit more in flat... He really deserves something like 75-76
He is the guy bringing sprinters at the front and is capable of good runs on flat...
Team Europcar !!
RIP Wouter
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 20-07-2010 15:16
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Hushovd should not get 70+ in mountain, but 68-69 is realistic i think. But again, we cant always demand higher skill after one good stage from a rider. But(!) Hushovd has done this a numerous times
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| siwi |
Posted on 20-07-2010 17:50
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69 too much imo.. Think like 65-66 would be ok. |
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