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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 14-07-2010 08:28
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Well Würth was some time co sponsor of a spanish team, you could also say why on earth would a company like Würth co-sponsor a spanish cycling team and not a german team. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 14-07-2010 09:59
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Nota wrote:
Is it serious? SIEMENS? I don't think that a global company needs a cycling team. Cycling has very bad reputation and Seiemens can't win with this sponsoring. I don't even think they need danish market. It would be logical to sponsor a german or a dutch team, not a danish.
Are you serious? HTC? I don't think that a global company needs a cycling team.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-07-2010 10:01
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HTC getting best pr what they can get..
and dont forget ...cycling is hugh sport in europe.. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 14-07-2010 10:53
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Nino Defillipis is dead
1952 Trofeo Angelo Baracchi, with Giancarlo Astrua
1 stage, Giro d'Italia
1953 Tre Valli Varesine
1954 Giro dell'Emilia
Giro del Piemonte
1 stage, Giro d'Italia
1955 Giro dell'Emilia
1 stage, Giro d'Italia
1956 KoM, Vuelta a España
1 stage, Vuelta a España
2 stages, Tour de France
1957 2 stages, Tour de France
1958 Tour of Lombardy
Giro di Lazio
Giro del Piemonte
2 stages, Giro d'Italia
Points Competition, Tour of Switzerland
1 stage, Tour of Switzerland
1959 1 stage, Giro d'Italia
1960 Tre Valli Varesine
2 stages, Tour de France
1961 Giro del Veneto
1 stage, Giro d'Italia
1962 Giro di Lazio
1 stage, Vuelta a España
1963 1 stage, Giro d'Italia
1964 1 stage, Giro d'Italia
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 14-07-2010 22:08
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The Verbrugghen-Landis emails have been leaked on cyclingnews .
Couple of thoughts :
- Had I been Verbrugghen, I'd have tried to stay as far as possible from Landis, especially these days. Certainly I wouldn't have sent him an email to mock him (which is basically the purpose of the first email)
- H.V. is a saint, he did everything he ever could to fight doping in cycling (do like me : try hard to not burst out in laughters right now), among the two nests of corruption that IOC and UCI are, during 30 years, he has never been dishonest to anyone.
- When you lack arguments, or could get into troubles, you just give up and start insulting. Which H.V. did in his last email.
Being no U.S. citizen, what does H.V. risk from U.S. justice ?
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 14-07-2010 22:12
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Aquarius wrote:
Being no U.S. citizen, what does H.V. risk from U.S. justice ?
Legally none. They can request his appearance in court, but can't force it. Unless they have the co-operation of his home country
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| issoisso |
Posted on 14-07-2010 22:13
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More importantly, from the e-mail exchange we see that the Grand Jury already had convened at the date of the letter (over a month ago)
Edited by issoisso on 14-07-2010 22:14
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 14-07-2010 22:22
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issoisso wrote:
More importantly, from the e-mail exchange we see that the Grand Jury already had convened at the date of the letter (over a month ago)
Not important in the slightest. There is no timetable for Grand Jury indictments, so how long it has been around means nothing. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-07-2010 11:53
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HTC - Columbia is negotiating with Google about a "serious" sponsorship. They currently cooperate on a few projects, e.g. the HTC Columbia My Tracks page. But it seems that Google is ready to enter cycling with an actual sponsorship investment. |
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Posted on 24-11-2024 19:35
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-07-2010 12:30
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CrueTrue wrote:
HTC - Columbia is negotiating with Google about a "serious" sponsorship. They currently cooperate on a few projects, e.g. the HTC Columbia My Tracks page. But it seems that Google is ready to enter cycling with an actual sponsorship investment.
Great news. Anyone remember the jersey they used to sell in the google shop? I actually liked it.
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| raz |
Posted on 15-07-2010 13:04
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HTC,Columbia,Skype and now Google.They should be the best team
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-07-2010 14:05
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Lance Armstrong now claims he has never been anything else than a rider of US Postal.
A couple of years ago (2005) he admitted he owned like 10 % of TailWind sports, which is the team that was called US Postal, then Discovery Channel.
The point ? If Landis accusations prove an organised team doping in that team, the owners will be punished, whereas mere riders might get away with it.
Why change his claims about owning shares in the team, if Landis is only lying ? That makes no sense. 
Then again he'll say Landis has no credibility because he changes versions. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 15-07-2010 14:17
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Aquarius wrote:
Lance Armstrong now claims he has never been anything else than a rider of US Postal.
A couple of years ago (2005) he admitted he owned like 10 % of TailWind sports, which is the team that was called US Postal, then Discovery Channel.
The point ? If Landis accusations prove an organised team doping in that team, the owners will be punished, whereas mere riders might get away with it.
Why change his claims about owning shares in the team, if Landis is only lying ? That makes no sense.
Then again he'll say Landis has no credibility because he changes versions.
Not exactly. This is an attempt to lessen his punishment if he is judged by the FBI to be lying and if Landis's accusations are found to be true. If they are, Armstrong will be tried for perjury. However, anyone with an ownership stake will be charged with defrauding the Federal government (the US government owns 80% of the US Postal service) in addition to perjury, which carries a much higher penalty.
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| TheHelpfulDevil |
Posted on 15-07-2010 14:27
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not a fan of LA but i would not like to see him sent down. well maybe a little. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 17-07-2010 08:51
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OK, here are the latest facts on the Postal doping investigation.
2 "unnamed" former team riders are cooperating and have "talked".
Meanwhile, Novitzki has contacted Hamilton, Hincapie, Vande Velde and Zabriskie, but the only ones he's already had meetings with are the last two.
You catch my drift, of course.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-07-2010 10:27
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One note about the Tour mountain stages so far:
The performances are areound 410-420w. That's still above believable, but NOWHERE NEAR the performances of previous years.
Heck, Zoetemelk and Hinault climbed Avoriaz faster in the late 70s with much crappier bikess.
The Alberto Contador and Andy Schleck of the past few years would've annihilated their 2010 versions.
Draw your own conclusions 
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| Deda |
Posted on 18-07-2010 12:41
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raz wrote:
HTC,Columbia,Skype and now Google.They should be the best team
Columbia's sponsorship of the High Road Sports, Inc. ends this year, so ONLY Google, HTC and Skype for the next
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 18-07-2010 12:51
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I don't have any conclusion to draw yet.
Besides, 1985 has never been in the late 70's. And the climb wasn't really comparable (either TT, either a climb where the favourites fought all the way up, etc. and the finish point hasn't always been located at the same place).
Basso, Armstrong, etc. were dropped on the Madeleine with an average of 362 W, which is extremely low. Contador and Schleck averaged 394 W, which is still beyond standards for top GC riders, whereas Menchov, Gesink, were around 375.
Thus, it's mostly conditions that day that made power outputs much lower than usually (was it windy or anything ?). I consider the Madeleine inconclusive.
We'll see after the Pyrénées if it's lower than usual (it'll probably be), by much or by a very small margin.
Still, I'm laughing at those people who were mocking me when I first came up with such datas. "It doesn't prove anything". "Bikes and training have improved", well, the figures are going down in the cleaner years, and all those who have had extremely high figures have been involved in doping scandals (not necessarily condemned) at some point of their career...
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| Crommy |
Posted on 18-07-2010 13:13
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Aquarius, I've missed those sort of posts. Please keep them coming 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 18-07-2010 13:37
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Crommy wrote:
Aquarius, I've missed those sort of posts. Please keep them coming
Cromford! You're alive!
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