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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:00
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Damn Rojas just dodged that crash. He might have pulled off a 3rd if h hadn't given up. Assuming that was Rojas.
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| Deda |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:03
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any words on injury(es) yet?
edit: just read isso's post, bummer for Coyot.
Edited by Deda on 15-06-2010 22:05
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| jacknic |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:28
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So is this not almost as bad as what Theo Bos did to Impey?
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:33
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jacknic wrote:
So is this not almost as bad as what Theo Bos did to Impey?
You can't compare them in my opinion. In one incident Bos's arm comes off the handles and looks as if he pulls Impey down with him although I doubt he would do something so horrid while Cavendish merely moved over out of his 'lane' and took out others. It didn't appear as flagrant as the Impey incident.
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| Deda |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:33
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in my country, there is a saying:
don't mix frogs with grandmothers.
Cavendish was just stupid, not necessarily malicious towards anyone. Theo Bos was a douche.
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:37
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It reminds me that I turned up to a race once, and we were told by the organisers (as two seperate races lined up), that the crap group were, under no circumstances, to attempt to switch or change your racing line rapidly. The elite race, on the other hand, were free to do what we liked to try and cause carnage, as we were more "experienced".
Experienced at what? Racing badly?
But I digress, shit crash eh?
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:47
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I would usually defend cavendish, but seriously, WTF?
You can't even begin to argue that he kept his line, the video footage is quite conclusive.
Just hope he's OK for the tour.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:49
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Stupid crash. I reckon dangerous riding could do with a ban of some sort or removal from a race. Something that makes people think a bit.
But then again, whenever it's down to a comissaires judgement they're gonna get it wrong and there are gonna be arguments.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 22:50
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Stupid crash. I reckon dangerous riding could do with a ban of some sort or removal from a race. Something that makes people think a bit.
But then again, whenever it's down to a comissaires judgement they're gonna get it wrong and there are gonna be arguments.
Well, they got it wrong on the stage to Besancon last year.. 
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 23:00
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valverde321 wrote:
jacknic wrote:
So is this not almost as bad as what Theo Bos did to Impey?
You can't compare them in my opinion. In one incident Bos's arm comes off the handles and looks as if he pulls Impey down with him although I doubt he would do something so horrid while Cavendish merely moved over out of his 'lane' and took out others. It didn't appear as flagrant as the Impey incident.
"merely" moved over 
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Posted on 15-06-2010 23:05
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ponka00 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
jacknic wrote:
So is this not almost as bad as what Theo Bos did to Impey?
You can't compare them in my opinion. In one incident Bos's arm comes off the handles and looks as if he pulls Impey down with him although I doubt he would do something so horrid while Cavendish merely moved over out of his 'lane' and took out others. It didn't appear as flagrant as the Impey incident.
"merely" moved over
Cav tries to cover the whole road to prevent his opponents getting past him
It's nowhere near as bad. Cavendish was in deep trouble when he almost swung across half the road width to begin his sprint. He was moving back into the position he had before, which was wrong.
Bos grabed Impey's jersey and threw him down, which is wrong but more deliberate.
A night of watching cycling live, i'm now here dicussing cycling further in a sprint i only saw the last 500m of.
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| ponka00 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 23:09
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doddy13 wrote:
ponka00 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
jacknic wrote:
So is this not almost as bad as what Theo Bos did to Impey?
You can't compare them in my opinion. In one incident Bos's arm comes off the handles and looks as if he pulls Impey down with him although I doubt he would do something so horrid while Cavendish merely moved over out of his 'lane' and took out others. It didn't appear as flagrant as the Impey incident.
"merely" moved over
Cav tries to cover the whole road to prevent his opponents getting past him
It's nowhere near as bad. Cavendish was in deep trouble when he almost swung across half the road width to begin his sprint. He was moving back into the position he had before, which was wrong.
Bos grabed Impey's jersey and threw him down, which is wrong but more deliberate.
A night of watching cycling live, i'm now here dicussing cycling further in a sprint i only saw the last 500m of.
I never defended Bos or even implied that Cavendish's blocking was anywhere as bad 
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 23:11
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ponka00 wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
ponka00 wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
jacknic wrote:
So is this not almost as bad as what Theo Bos did to Impey?
You can't compare them in my opinion. In one incident Bos's arm comes off the handles and looks as if he pulls Impey down with him although I doubt he would do something so horrid while Cavendish merely moved over out of his 'lane' and took out others. It didn't appear as flagrant as the Impey incident.
"merely" moved over
Cav tries to cover the whole road to prevent his opponents getting past him
It's nowhere near as bad. Cavendish was in deep trouble when he almost swung across half the road width to begin his sprint. He was moving back into the position he had before, which was wrong.
Bos grabed Impey's jersey and threw him down, which is wrong but more deliberate.
A night of watching cycling live, i'm now here dicussing cycling further in a sprint i only saw the last 500m of.
I never defended Bos or even implied that Cavendish's blocking was anywhere as bad
I know, just needed to get it off my chest.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 15-06-2010 23:19
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Also, as i've seen on various forums (where most posters are idiots) - Cavendish will not have gone "oh i know, i'll go cause a mass crash today".
If he did think that, a trip to the mental institute is in order.
Edited by doddy13 on 15-06-2010 23:20
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| Kami |
Posted on 16-06-2010 06:24
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Haussler abbandoned, he has a deep cut in his leg.
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| jacknic |
Posted on 16-06-2010 08:05
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I am sorry for starting this debate and just leaving. I thought that there may have been a parallel. Both Bos and Cav did some wreckless stupid riding with severe injuries to other riders as a result. And no, the Theo Bos incident was not intentional.
Edited by jacknic on 16-06-2010 08:06
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| Deda |
Posted on 16-06-2010 08:08
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jacknic wrote:
And no, the Theo Bos incident was not intentional.
wait, seriously?
Edited by Deda on 16-06-2010 08:08
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 16-06-2010 08:14
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jacknic wrote:
the Theo Bos incident was not intentional.
Im sorry. Would you please repeat that?
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| jacknic |
Posted on 16-06-2010 08:25
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doddy13 wrote:
Cavendish will not have gone "oh i know, i'll go cause a mass crash today".
If he did think that, a trip to the mental institute is in order.
Exchange Cavendish with Bos...
This has been discussed to death in other threads. Sory to bring it up again.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 16-06-2010 08:44
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doddy13 wrote:
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Stupid crash. I reckon dangerous riding could do with a ban of some sort or removal from a race. Something that makes people think a bit.
But then again, whenever it's down to a comissaires judgement they're gonna get it wrong and there are gonna be arguments.
Well, they got it wrong on the stage to Besancon last year..
my point exactly.
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