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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 20:51
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issoisso wrote:
The rest of the names are to be given tomorrow.
And Bennati has just been pulled out of the Giro with no reason given.
https://www.velonation.com/News/ID/404...s-out.aspx
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| Wyman |
Posted on 04-05-2010 20:53
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rjc_43 wrote:
Facebook is now offering adverts to EPO sellers. See attached.
I mentioned something like this in Cafe Pedro a few weeks back but no-one noticed 
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 21:22
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Yeah, I don't read Cafe Pedro, because it's a waste of space. So that's why I missed it. Apparantly they try and link the adverts to your likes/dislikes and profile settings (as anyone will know if you put "single" as your status), so maybe they know I'm a cyclist?
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 21:34
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Having read through their PDF file, explaining what "pill" they are offering, they aren't increasing EPO production naturally at all.
What they are doing, is claiming they are, and claiming you'll perform better, and then giving you every single mineral and vitamin that most athletes find they're lacking when training high volumes and intensities. Such as; iron, B vitamins, vitamin C, and a fuck load of anti-oxidants, well known for their recovery aiding effects.
So yes, the pill will help you perform better, but a higher natural production of EPO more than you'd naturally be able to produce? No. Maybe it'll just max your potential.
They also make the most HORRIFIC claim I've ever seen. To quote:
What separates amateur and elite endurance athletes is VO2max – the capacity for taking in and processing oxygen.
Remember: the amount of oxygen your body can utilize is the
link in the chain that can make or break your performance.
When you can take in more oxygen you can run, pedal,
and pump away for longer – instantly making you a better
conditioned athlete.
WRONG! My dissertation is on? The differences between elite and amateur cyclists. Conclusion? Everything BUT VO2 max.
Conclusion on EPO pills? Don't buy. Buy a multi-vitamin pill thing instead. Plus, don't play about with supplementation of iron without medical advice.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 21:45
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rjc_43 wrote:
WRONG! My dissertation is on? The differences between elite and amateur cyclists. Conclusion? Everything BUT VO2 max.
Out of interest, is this implying that VO2 max is irrelevant, or that it makes a much smaller difference than lactic threshold, willpower etc.
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 21:50
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Think of it as building blocks. VO2 max are you foundations, but, you'd have a pretty shit house if all you had were deep foundations. Some houses are built without foundations for example 
Lactate threshold, maximal lactate steady state are two more important considerations.
The mental side comes in as well. How many hundreds of people are out there with MASSIVE (foundations) engines, and yet don't have the drive to succeed? And then, how many are out there with relatively tiny engines, and do succeed.
You just can't look at endurance (or any sport) sports with just VO2 max in mind.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 22:24
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Whatever happens with Pellizotti I hope it happens quickly. It's not fair on anyone to drag it out. CONI on May 17, then CAS quickly afterwards I hope.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 22:24
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Spoiler You're really stupid if you think that just because "three experts" think it was doping they're going to base their case on just that.
You're also really stupid to make comments on doping cases you have no clue about, none of us do. You can bet billions on the case that once the UCI bring it up, using the passport system as back up, on a rider, that that rider is not getting away. They've been caught.
You find it harder to accept, than the doped riders it seems.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 22:26
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rjc_43 wrote:
Think of it as building blocks. VO2 max are you foundations, but, you'd have a pretty shit house if all you had were deep foundations. Some houses are built without foundations for example
Lactate threshold, maximal lactate steady state are two more important considerations.
The mental side comes in as well. How many hundreds of people are out there with MASSIVE (foundations) engines, and yet don't have the drive to succeed? And then, how many are out there with relatively tiny engines, and do succeed.
You just can't look at endurance (or any sport) sports with just VO2 max in mind.
cool, thanks
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 04-05-2010 22:34
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You're that important to vent my anger, disgust and hatred to the way the world works, and my general shite life, on. Yes.
I've got to vent on someone, and you're the most annoying person on atm.
I hope you don't take it too personally.
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 04-05-2010 22:45
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rjc_43 wrote:
You're that important to vent my anger, disgust and hatred to the way the world works, and my general shite life, on. Yes.
I've got to vent on someone, and you're the most annoying person on atm.
I hope you don't take it too personally.
I hope he takes it very personally.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 05-05-2010 01:20
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Communication appears to be top notch at Garmin. Kessiakof hasn't a clue whether he's riding the Giro or not
https://www.cyclin...kessiakoff
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2010 08:25
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Pellizotti's entirely unoriginal excuse is dehydration.
Apparently over a 5 month period I guess, since the problem is there both in June and November.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 05-05-2010 08:46
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He was properbly pregnant aswell
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 05-05-2010 09:56
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mb2612 wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
WRONG! My dissertation is on? The differences between elite and amateur cyclists. Conclusion? Everything BUT VO2 max.
Out of interest, is this implying that VO2 max is irrelevant, or that it makes a much smaller difference than lactic threshold, willpower etc. VO2 would basically define how fast you can theoretically ride on the flat (or climbing), under your, or at your breathing threshold, all that neglecting other aspects such as aerodynamics, mechanics, etc.
As rjc_43 implied, there's much more than VO2 to a cyclist. How long can you ride that fast, and how many days in a row can you repeat that performance. Also, cycling is not all about riding at your threshold, that usually goes only for time trials, resisting to a chasing peloton, or leading the chase in that peloton, or climbing mountains at decisive moments of a race, etc.
VO2 max reaches its max value at the juniors or in U23 categories, then the difference is mostly endurance.
Of course doping with the right products will also increase your VO2.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2010 10:23
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that just because "three experts" think it was doping they're going to base their case on just that.
You're also really stupid to make comments on doping cases you have no clue about, none of us do. You can bet billions on the case that once the UCI bring it up, using the passport system as back up, on a rider, that that rider is not getting away. They've been caught.
You find it harder to accept, than the doped riders it seems.
It's also partially caused by the rider spilling lies and misinformation, as Pellizotti is doing.
The average fan won't read through the crap to sort out what's fact and what's not, and will believe the sensationalist claims by the riders.
Look at the Landis case. Landis pushed so many lies through the media, and it worked. A very large portion of fans still believe complete fabrications he conjured up out out of his ass and presented to the media as "fact".
Even the CAS, that is usually tends to abstain from making such judgements, felt the need to reprimand him in their sanction, such was the level of complete fabrication he was spewing to anyone who would listen.
There's a reason why riders do this. It works.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| issoisso |
Posted on 05-05-2010 11:40
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Valverde's switched to the Armstrong line of defence. Instead of "I'm innocent" or "I never used drugs", it's now "I never tested positive".
Heh. Every time his statements show up anywhere but the spanish media it's when he's defending himself from doping.
I bet it's gotten to a point where most people see him as an entitled jackass. Actually he's pretty much the nicest friendlist guy in the peloton.
In short, his PR team suck and aren't doing him any favours.
The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified
"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| Deda |
Posted on 05-05-2010 11:44
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Giving the M.Ventoux victory to Szmyd is the nicest and friendliest sporting act I've ever witnessed since I started watching cycling two years ago.
If offense is the best defence, does it mean that defence is the worst defence?
If I should die before I wake, I pray the Lord will delete my browser history.
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 05-05-2010 11:50
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schleck93 wrote:
He was properbly pregnant aswell
lol there was a story i was told years ago about a weightlifter who was injecting his wifes urine into himself and when he took the the test it came back negative but the docter said to him by the way your pregnant  dont know if it was true |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 05-05-2010 12:15
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Freddy Martens used his wife urin which he keept in a bottle. The result came bacn negative but he was told he was pregnant
BenBarnes wrote:
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