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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-04-2010 21:13
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ruben wrote:
Globalisation.
Could be exciting, now if they'd just hold a Pro Tour race in Colombia... I would be over the moon
I get globalisation. But make these races exist for a few years first. Like say Turkey, make the race exist and suceed for a couple of years.
I said the same about Quebec a while back.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 10-04-2010 21:16
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doddy13 wrote:
ruben wrote:
Globalisation.
Could be exciting, now if they'd just hold a Pro Tour race in Colombia... I would be over the moon
I get globalisation. But make these races exist for a few years first. Like say Turkey, make the race exist and suceed for a couple of years.
I said the same about Quebec a while back.
in a perfect world yes. but these races want to be protour because it means they're guaranteed the best teams. and if it fits with the uci's global goals...
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 10-04-2010 21:33
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Get a race in Manitoba the province which is part of Canada. Good for the sprinters. 
Now thats globalisation.
Edited by valverde321 on 10-04-2010 21:40
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| hondo |
Posted on 10-04-2010 23:12
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ruben wrote:
Globalisation.
Could be exciting, now if they'd just hold a Pro Tour race in Colombia... I would be over the moon
Cesar Grajales explains the situation in Colombia:
"Compare the Vuelta A Colombia with the Tour of California, which is a very new race...and next year will be a Pro Tour race. How can the Vuelta not be Pro Tour after such a legendary run? They don't understand how things work"
"They're putting a race for Colombian teams only. They're not concerned about the growth of the sport. They're stuck in their ways."
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 10-04-2010 23:19
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It remains to be seen whether anyone cares about the new races though - just how strong a field will these Canadian races this year get?
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| tgsgirl |
Posted on 10-04-2010 23:33
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SportingNonsense wrote:
It remains to be seen whether anyone cares about the new races though - just how strong a field will these Canadian races this year get?
They better be the best damn races there are, since the UCI killed off the very successful women's leg of the World Cup for it; just so the men can have yet another race they have to attend, even if they don't want to.
Edited by tgsgirl on 10-04-2010 23:55
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| hondo |
Posted on 10-04-2010 23:50
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I think a Pro Tour race in Colombia with 80 kilometer climbs would bring interest worldwide.
People loves epic stages, and in Colombia where cycling is so big, how should it fail?
Edited by hondo on 10-04-2010 23:54
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 10-04-2010 23:51
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I would love a ProTour race in Colombia. They got some great stages down there.
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 10-04-2010 23:55
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It will be like making a tour for Contador then. 
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 11-04-2010 00:06
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No, cause 80 km climbs means 80 km downhill, and frankly Contador sucks at downhills
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 11-04-2010 00:38
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I do think Clombia needs a PT Race though. It just fits. It's a whole different kind of race and many people would enjoy watching it. not to mention the beauty in the landscape in Colombia.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 11-04-2010 01:48
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ruben wrote:
Globalisation.
Could be exciting, now if they'd just hold a Pro Tour race in Colombia... I would be over the moon
That's nice, 80 year old races in France and Italy can't find sponsors and you want to expand to Columbia?
I'm not opposed to it, but the last thing cycling needs to do right now is try to globalize. Cycling needs to stick on its base and survive the economic and doping problems it has right now. Also, first, the US, Britain, and Russia all need PT races.
Edited by Deadpool on 11-04-2010 01:49
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 11-04-2010 03:37
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Being a Colombian, my two cents: La Vuelta a Colombia was great during the 80's and mid 90's. The climbs are amazing, not just because of the profile, but because of the height, easily above 3500 meters over the sea level (more than 11000 feet).
Unfortunately, la Vuelta started to lose economic interest in Colombia, specially because with the exceptions of riders kind of Botero, there weren't any serious Grand Tour colombian contenders by the end of the 90's. Sponsors like Café de Colombia began sponsoring sports like winter sports or tennis (WTF!?) and the remaining cyclists, not existing any colombian team in the european tour, were just supporting riders for the european teams.
That's a pity, of course, because I'm fully convinced that one of the reasons for the decline in the colombian cycling level was the appearence of high cost endurance drugs, like EPO. Not that I'm that naive to think colombian riders don't dope, but, and I guess this is obvious, blood doping or EPO are less useful to cyclists already used to climb.
Anyways, it would be amazing of la Vuelta a Colombia gets a higher recognition and support, because its interest should be higher than stage races like la Vuelta a San Luis or la Vuelta al Táchira.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 11-04-2010 07:10
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Ildabaoth wrote:
That's a pity, of course, because I'm fully convinced that one of the reasons for the decline in the colombian cycling level was the appearence of high cost endurance drugs, like EPO. Not that I'm that naive to think colombian riders don't dope, but, and I guess this is obvious, blood doping or EPO are less useful to cyclists already used to climb.
Or as Luis Herrera's father once put it, after Herrera quit due to rampant doping in the peloton:
"It's not that we're against it, but...a colombian rider can barely afford a bike. Where's he going to find money for drugs?"
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| SotD |
Posted on 11-04-2010 09:58
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To go back a notch I hope Breschel goes to Rabobank. We have needed a classic captain ever since Rolf Sørensen stopped, and it would bring back memories for Breschel to be at the Rabo team.
Now we only need Fuglsang to go up to Riis level, and Chris Anker to go at Michael Rasmussen level.
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| ruben |
Posted on 11-04-2010 10:46
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Deadpool wrote:
ruben wrote:
Globalisation.
Could be exciting, now if they'd just hold a Pro Tour race in Colombia... I would be over the moon
That's nice, 80 year old races in France and Italy can't find sponsors and you want to expand to Columbia?
I'm not opposed to it, but the last thing cycling needs to do right now is try to globalize. Cycling needs to stick on its base and survive the economic and doping problems it has right now. Also, first, the US, Britain, and Russia all need PT races.
Dude, you have no idea how big cycling is in Colombia and South-America. There is a big, untapped market there.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 11-04-2010 10:49
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Colombia is a frequently used Track world cup stop. Quite well attended too (riders wise).
Spectator wise - leaves a lot to be desired.
Edited by doddy13 on 11-04-2010 10:54
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 11-04-2010 10:52
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Deadpool wrote:
ruben wrote:
Globalisation.
Could be exciting, now if they'd just hold a Pro Tour race in Colombia... I would be over the moon
That's nice, 80 year old races in France and Italy can't find sponsors and you want to expand to Columbia?
I'm not opposed to it, but the last thing cycling needs to do right now is try to globalize. Cycling needs to stick on its base and survive the economic and doping problems it has right now. Also, first, the US, Britain, and Russia all need PT races.
Those markets are WAY smaller than the columbian market. Columbia is the only country in the world where is cycling is anywhere near th primary sport. Hell, when the first columbian team entered tdf, they broadcasted it live in the middle of the night, had reporters in france. And people watched it, many people!
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| ruben |
Posted on 11-04-2010 10:55
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Indeed, Deadpool, just go and watch pictures of South-American and especially Colombian races.
really TONS and TONS of people, the people on the mountains and in the places they pass make it almost a carnaval. There is more people in the finish place of *insert colombian race here* then for instance the Circuit de la Sarthe.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 11-04-2010 10:58
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Also, on the Britian PT race thing, I'd love to see one. But our national tour is currently not the best organised, lets say there needs to be some improvements in organisation and publicity.
Cycling is growing here, thats certain, but now it's in the hands of the TV guys to wake up and start giving it the much needed publicity.
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