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PCM.daily's 2010 DB Public Beta: Bug Reports
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| Maximka |
Posted on 21-01-2010 14:11
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There isn't prize money for overall standings in Giro
CrueTrue: Unconfirmed.
Edited by CrueTrue on 22-01-2010 21:07
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| Thrige |
Posted on 21-01-2010 14:18
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Posted on 23-11-2024 15:51
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| hondo |
Posted on 21-01-2010 17:17
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CrueTrue wrote:
Concerning stage 17, I suppose you're talking about the stage from Bagnéres-de-Luchon to Pau?
While I do agree that it, on paper, looks tough, it should be noted that there's a long way from the last mountain to the finish line. It's difficult to predict what will happen in 'real life', but in the 2009 version of the Tour, we had several of those stages with tough mountains and a long way to the finish line. In those, nothing really happened. Therefore, the stage is set to being flat to get a similar result.
Other than that, thanks. Pau-Tourmalet has been fixed, and Pereiro has been moved to Astana.
I played the stage with Astana, attacked on Tourmalet and as a surprise non-climbers could follow Contador on the climbs. For me it screws the gameplay a bit putting the stage to flat. Some of the favorites also lose 10 minutes without reason because they don't follow any attacks or close gaps. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 17:38
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Noé Gianetti's nationality should be swiss
CrueTrue: Confirmed and fixed.
Edited by CrueTrue on 22-01-2010 21:08
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| MCSPantani |
Posted on 21-01-2010 18:20
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I've felt the same thing as hondo. Some 65 Mo guy climbing & smiling next to cadel. Is it possible that, by putting the stage "flat" every non-climber will get throw the mountains with a smile?
I'm feellin' that mountain stages are a bit less selective... e.g. Paris - Nice also with Cadel, climbing Le Mont-Ventoux and getting an 8th place behind Hesjedal, Barredo, Tony Martin, Knees, Voeckler, Menchov (normal), Fédrigo.
Of course they are all great riders, but less efective in the mountains than Cadel Evans (except menchov), and they did in fact climb alongside with me (and believe me, i consider myself a really good climber). Cadel was having a good day (+2) and struggled to follow the Canadian guy (form: 80).
"Peanuts" aside, this is a great DB and the PCM experience is a lot exciting now.
Thanks to the team and to all the PCM Daily Community |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 18:25
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MCSPantani wrote:
I've felt the same thing as hondo. Some 65 Mo guy climbing & smiling next to cadel. Is it possible that, by putting the stage "flat" every non-climber will get throw the mountains with a smile?
No, but there is a Hill/Mountain setting for each stage, and that's no doubt what's influencing. I haven't checked what it's set as, but given that it's a mountain stage with several major climbs it should definitely be set at 1.00
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| Nielzz |
Posted on 21-01-2010 19:11
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I have noticed a few bugs:
- Bodrogi's nationality is hungarian and not french
- A part of stage 2 of the tirreno is under water..
- No prize money or sprintpoints @ the muntolupone stage (stage 4) in the tirreno
CrueTrue: Confirmed. 2 and 3 fixed.
Edited by CrueTrue on 22-01-2010 21:15
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 19:14
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Nielzz wrote:
I have noticed a few bugs:
- Bodrogi's nationality is hungarian and not french
- A part of stage 2 of the tirreno is under water..
- No prize money or sprintpoints @ the muntolupone stage (stage 4) in the tirreno
The first one's not actually a bug. Bodrogi is french now.
(I can't believe I haven't reported the 2nd one. I was sure I had. Dumb dumb me)
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| ravenation |
Posted on 21-01-2010 19:49
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I have to disagree highly with the stats giving to Michael Rasmussen. He has been great in the races climbing so far after his comeback. |
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| hondo |
Posted on 21-01-2010 20:21
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ravenation wrote:
I have to disagree highly with the stats giving to Michael Rasmussen. He has been great in the races climbing so far after his comeback.
I agree 100 %. It seems the guy who made the stats of Rasmussen hates him or just don't know him.
With the current stats, even Voeckler can drop him in the mountains.
Edited by hondo on 21-01-2010 20:22
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| RRoobbiinn |
Posted on 21-01-2010 20:35
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Is the 2009 version of the Tour de France completely gone? Because that's the orignal one from the game and worked quite good, so would like to play it again sometimes. |
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| AsgerNielsen |
Posted on 21-01-2010 20:41
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You're right guys. I don't wanna be the fanboy here, and the first thing I did, was change it my self, but it really annoys me as well. Even Ricco, a guy who's actually been caught cheating (we all know Rasmussens never been caught) has way better stats. And it's not just the mountains; he's bad at non-fitness related stuff too, like descending. I understand why one would rate him poorly in the TT, but come on, the guy was MTB World champion, fcol. If the same logic as for all the other ex-mtb- and cross-guys applies, he should at least be in the 70's. Just think it's a general problem that some riders are intentionally down rated... |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 20:48
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Yeah, even a guy with 68 mountain can drop him in the DB......
Oh wait, that 68MO guy DID drop him 2 days ago on a mountain stage 
Seriously, what's Rasmussen done since coming back? He won a stage from a breakaway against mexican amateurs who didn't chase him down. So far he's been subpar, which is to be expected.
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| hondo |
Posted on 21-01-2010 20:55
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issoisso wrote:
Yeah, even a guy with 68 mountain can drop him in the DB......
Oh wait, that 68MO guy DID drop him 2 days ago on a mountain stage
Seriously, what's Rasmussen done since coming back? He won a stage from a breakaway against mexican amateurs who didn't chase him down. So far he's been subpar, which is to be expected.
a) It's january, and he has already said he uses the race for training.
b) Mexican amateurs? Since when has Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo become mexican amateurs?
Edited by hondo on 21-01-2010 20:57
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 21:05
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hondo wrote:
a) It's january, and he has already said he uses the race for training.
So you're arguing that he should be better but you have nothing to back it up with?
hondo wrote:
b) Mexican amateurs? Since when has Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo become mexican amateurs?
So you're saying he won a race from a breakaway ahead of Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo?
You're confusing PCM with real life. That never happened
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| Inferio |
Posted on 21-01-2010 21:07
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issoisso wrote:
Yeah, even a guy with 68 mountain can drop him in the DB......
Oh wait, that 68MO guy DID drop him 2 days ago on a mountain stage
Seriously, what's Rasmussen done since coming back? He won a stage from a breakaway against mexican amateurs who didn't chase him down. So far he's been subpar, which is to be expected.
Don't you remeber he won the uphill prologue in Chihuhua last year? Against guys hondo listed?
BTW. Riders' stats are clearly up to DB makers, they made it how do tey think...we allare never going to agree with each other...you can edit it for yourself everytime 
Edited by Inferio on 21-01-2010 21:11
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| hondo |
Posted on 21-01-2010 21:11
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issoisso wrote:
hondo wrote:
a) It's january, and he has already said he uses the race for training.
So you're arguing that he should be better but you have nothing to back it up with?
hondo wrote:
b) Mexican amateurs? Since when has Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo become mexican amateurs?
So you're saying he won a race from a breakaway ahead of Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo?
You're confusing PCM with real life. That never happened
I don't expect you to remember everything but to say that "Vuelta a Chihuahua" never existed is a bit crazy.
Maybe he didn't won by a breakaway but he won the hilly proloque.
Edited by hondo on 21-01-2010 21:26
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 21:12
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Yes I do.
But hondo argued against my "mexican amateurs" comment.
And that wasn't the race where he beat the mexican amateurs. That was his second race for Tecos, where he won the lottery short prologue but finished well back on GC when it counted.
It's kinda hard to make that into an argument for making Rasmussen better. It doesn't prove a damned thing.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-01-2010 21:13
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hondo wrote:
issoisso wrote:
hondo wrote:
a) It's january, and he has already said he uses the race for training.
So you're arguing that he should be better but you have nothing to back it up with?
hondo wrote:
b) Mexican amateurs? Since when has Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo become mexican amateurs?
So you're saying he won a race from a breakaway ahead of Cobo, Mosquera, Gutierrez, Sevilla and Mancebo?
You're confusing PCM with real life. That never happened
I don't expect you to remember everything but to say that "Vuelta a Chihuahua" never existed is a bit crazy.
He won a breakaway road stage at the Vuelta a Chihuahua?
Was he wearing a Rui Costa mask and a Caisse uniform? Cause I remember Costa did that last october
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| ravenation |
Posted on 21-01-2010 21:18
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I think it is a mistake in the DB. He has been the only one together with Ricco beating Contador on a mountain finish for the last 2 years. Before that he took the polka dot jersey for several years and are former World Champion in Mountainbiking. Compare him with the other riders coming back from doping like Scarponi, Basso etc. His stats is a disgrace in my opinion.
But as always good work with the DB - so far this is the only bug i have found.
A suggestion from me would be to make a DB with or without all the extra equipment, as my laptop slows it a bit, with so much equipment. Have the impression other people with older computers has the same problem. |
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