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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 23-05-2010 12:42
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rjc_43 wrote:
Yeah, how's that Tour de France preparation coming along?
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 23-05-2010 16:53
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rjc_43 wrote:
There's a difference between crits and circuit races? Or are you Americans just confused again?
I can't tell the difference usually either. The last curcuit race I did was 1.1 miles in length and had to hairpins thrown in to make it that long. Today it is 2.5 miles, so it kinda makes a bit more sense. Usually it is whatever the organizer wants to call it though.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 23-05-2010 16:59
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Levi4life wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
There's a difference between crits and circuit races? Or are you Americans just confused again?
I can't tell the difference usually either. The last curcuit race I did was 1.1 miles in length and had to hairpins thrown in to make it that long. Today it is 2.5 miles, so it kinda makes a bit more sense. Usually it is whatever the organizer wants to call it though.
Circuit races don't have free lap rule, crits do. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 23-05-2010 17:23
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Deadpool wrote:
Levi4life wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
There's a difference between crits and circuit races? Or are you Americans just confused again?
I can't tell the difference usually either. The last curcuit race I did was 1.1 miles in length and had to hairpins thrown in to make it that long. Today it is 2.5 miles, so it kinda makes a bit more sense. Usually it is whatever the organizer wants to call it though.
Circuit races don't have free lap rule, crits do.
what's a free lap rule?
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 23-05-2010 17:27
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Levi4life wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
There's a difference between crits and circuit races? Or are you Americans just confused again?
I can't tell the difference usually either. The last curcuit race I did was 1.1 miles in length and had to hairpins thrown in to make it that long. Today it is 2.5 miles, so it kinda makes a bit more sense. Usually it is whatever the organizer wants to call it though.
Circuit races don't have free lap rule, crits do.
what's a free lap rule?
if you crash or flat in the first half of the race you can go to the pit, get fixed up or a new wheel, and get put back into the peloton without losing a lap. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 23-05-2010 17:45
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In the UK, it's normally with 5 or more laps remaining. But all depends on the organiser and the rules they set. And it doesn't matter if it's a "crit" or a "circuit" race. Because they're both the same thing in the UK.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 23-05-2010 18:14
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rjc_43 wrote:
In the UK, it's normally with 5 or more laps remaining. But all depends on the organiser and the rules they set. And it doesn't matter if it's a "crit" or a "circuit" race. Because they're both the same thing in the UK.
that's what i thought.
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 23-05-2010 20:56
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Most crits in the US are less than 2K long, 1 or 2 crits in my area are half a mile. I got 21st in my first race, now I'm waiting for the start of the pro race in a few hours.
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| Kami |
Posted on 30-07-2010 16:05
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I'm in Süd Tirol on holiday atm. Didn't have the chance to bring my racing bike, but the hotel where i'm staying has a few mountainbikes. They're crappy, but it's better then nothing  .
Thuesday i went on a ride with my dad. First ride here and we had no clue what we would come across. My dad thought it was flat, but he thought wrong. First a short steep hill, a very small decent and then, out of nothing, unpaved roads. Fun for me but not for my dad as he has problems going on everything that goes slightly up. So we went back to the hotel.
Day after i went alone. Knew what the first part would bring, but that was the easier part. the unpaved roads went on for about 7 km and were really steep. Then i came more or less on a 'plateau'. When i came back (same road), i had to do those unpaved roads in the decent, and those were actually dangerous, having nothing next to the road from crashing down 8-12 metres in a river. Would have been much better with a decent bike, but meh, i had fun  .
Also came across a sign pointing in the direction of the Stelvio. Then i realised my current shape isn't anywhere near good enough to climb it and i'm coming back next year. Who knows, maybe then
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| jph27 |
Posted on 30-07-2010 16:10
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Ok, I want to start racing, but I don't know if I'll be able to afford it. Does anyone have any idea how much it would cost?
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| Kami |
Posted on 30-07-2010 16:13
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jph27 wrote:
Ok, I want to start racing, but I don't know if I'll be able to afford it. Does anyone have any idea how much it would cost?
Thanks,
jph27
Racing as in competing with others or riding for fun?
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| jph27 |
Posted on 30-07-2010 16:15
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Kami wrote:
jph27 wrote:
Ok, I want to start racing, but I don't know if I'll be able to afford it. Does anyone have any idea how much it would cost?
Thanks,
jph27
Racing as in competing with others or riding for fun?
Competing, It's something I've wanted to do for a while. |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 30-07-2010 21:38
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Starting from nothing, I did it for around 1500 dollars American.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 30-07-2010 22:13
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An entire year of racing? Or just a few races?
British Racing:
£500-£7,000 for a bike.
£200-£2,000 for kit - clothes, helmet, shoes.
£38 for a British Cycling Membership - Bronze. Go for Silver though, gives you cover should you ever have an accident (someone hitting you off your bike - invaluable. Literally invaluable.)
£56 for a Silver member ship.
£18?! ish for a Racing License.
That's your start up fees.
At the very bottom level, you don't need to worry about "special" nutritional products, that do fuck all anyway (just eat a normal, balanced, healthy diet, and you'll be fine).
Race day:
A circuit race costs £10-£15 for entry.
If you're lucky, you can cycle to a race. But you have to be very lucky if they're close.
If not, £10-£60 in petrol. And that's if you have a car.
I believe that is it.
Once you get off the bottom though, the price spirals. Kit needs replacing once every 2 years, more if you're crash-prone.
Bike's need constant maintance.
Need a new bike every few years too.
Yeah, most costly sport ever. I should have gone with athletics.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 30-07-2010 22:33
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As someone who is also vaguely interested, although I will probably have to wait until I get a proper job, what sort of speeds are required at the bottom level?
 [url=www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=33182] Team Santander Media Thread[/url]
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 30-07-2010 22:34
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At least (American) 150 - 400 dollars a year for bike maintenance. Tune-up, tires, chain, cassette. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 30-07-2010 22:57
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Speeds? If you can "average" about 17-18 mph on most hour long rides if you're trying, by yourself.
Or, can dip under the 30 minutes for a 10 mile TT, you can survive an hour long circuit race at 4th cat level (which is where you'd start).
If you can "average" 20mph for 3 hours by yourself, you can survive elite races. Just.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:15
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rjc_43 wrote:
Speeds? If you can "average" about 17-18 mph on most hour long rides if you're trying, by yourself.
Or, can dip under the 30 minutes for a 10 mile TT, you can survive an hour long circuit race at 4th cat level (which is where you'd start).
If you can "average" 20mph for 3 hours by yourself, you can survive elite races. Just.
I can do that first one without trying, the second one I've never tried, but am sure I could do it, and the 4th one I can do on relatively flat terrain.
I suck, so either British cycling sucks or you severely underestimated those numbers. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:19
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Well, you don't know where I live. So perhaps I should clarify my situation/location.
Hilly.
Flat terrain, I'm pretty sure I could [have] knock[ed] out 23mph for 3 hours [last year when I was racing with Elites]
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And also, those are the slowest speeds for which, in the race, you'd be suffering just staying with the group. In no way would you be having a good race.
Edited by rjc_43 on 30-07-2010 23:19
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 30-07-2010 23:22
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rjc_43 wrote:
Well, you don't know where I live. So perhaps I should clarify my situation/location.
Hilly.
Flat terrain, I'm pretty sure I could [have] knock[ed] out 23mph for 3 hours [last year when I was racing with Elites]
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And also, those are the slowest speeds for which, in the race, you'd be suffering just staying with the group. In no way would you be having a good race.
Same w/ me, which is why its hard to compare numbers.
My ride today was 45 miles in slightly under 3 hours (read 15-15.5 mi/h), which was mostly flat w/ 6 1/2 to 1 mile hills in the 8-15% range, and me taking it real easy.
Normally I do a 35 mile version (3 of those climbs instead of six) in around 2 hours or so.
EDIT: 2 best hills from the ride:
https://www.mapmyr...2876777003
https://www.mapmyr...2891517560
Top one once today, bottom one twice.
Edited by Deadpool on 30-07-2010 23:30
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