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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 06-09-2014 18:46
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Nin1388 wrote:
This might not be good for Froome though. Now everyone knows he is strong. So like 2012 Vuelta riders will just prefer to sit behind him and then out sprint him. Will expect him to close gaps if favourites attack. But that will all be changed if he manages to drop them all. Sadly for him there are no long 10 kms plus climbs which he prefers.
Well,the long 10 km plus climbs are just starting with tomorrow in
Lagos de Covadonga,then La Farrapona in Monday and then Puerto de Ancares in Saturday.Especially La Farrapona will most suit to Froome IMO
The user formerly known as 'The Schleck Fan'
Gracias Alberto.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 06-09-2014 19:04
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Carlos Verona's ride in the breakaway today. https://www.strava.../190710501
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 06-09-2014 19:07
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Nin1388 wrote:
This might not be good for Froome though. Now everyone knows he is strong. So like 2012 Vuelta riders will just prefer to sit behind him and then out sprint him. Will expect him to close gaps if favourites attack. But that will all be changed if he manages to drop them all. Sadly for him there are no long 10 kms plus climbs which he prefers.
1. No, everyone didn't do that. Froome was way below par after TdF, while Contador and Rodriguez didn't ride it and Valverde didn't ride the GC. It was a fight between 3 riders almost the entire race while Froome barely managed to get 4th, almost 10 minutes below Contador if memory serves.
2. The last 3 climbs are all over 10 km (Lagos de Covadonga, Lagos de Somiedo and Puerto de Ancares. This is probably one of the most factual false posts i have ever read in here, lol. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:16
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moriz1 wrote:
Froome is the best example why I dislike power meters in racing. Maybe, we´re soon going to have 30 riders all starring at their stem and riding TTs up the mountains. 
This was terrible to watch..man is not using he's brain..just 100% powermeter riding. We all know that you can get best out of you when you riding with powermeter.
No acceleration..just steady max pace what you can take..
Ugly..terrible to watch..this device killing cycling more then any race radio. |
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| Smoku |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:20
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Guido Mukk wrote:man is not using he's brain..just 100% powermeter riding.
That's the most accurate Froome description I've ever read. Cannot add anything to that. And never has it been shown to us in such an outragiously blatant way. |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:23
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I don't get why so many people say Froome has returned  The real test is yet to come since we know he has problems with recuperation. 
P.S Riis won't allow Contador to loose much more time in the mountains  |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:28
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Guido Mukk wrote:
moriz1 wrote:
Froome is the best example why I dislike power meters in racing. Maybe, we´re soon going to have 30 riders all starring at their stem and riding TTs up the mountains.
This was terrible to watch..man is not using he's brain..just 100% powermeter riding. We all know that you can get best out of you when you riding with powermeter.
No acceleration..just steady max pace what you can take..
Ugly..terrible to watch..this device killing cycling more then any race radio.
100% spot on  |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:31
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dark_x2012 wrote:
I don't get why so many people say Froome has returned The real test is yet to come since we know he has problems with recuperation.
P.S Riis won't allow Contador to loose much more time in the mountains
nah if the real froome returned he would be no where near front of the race, probley find it hard to get up most climbs or hanging on to cars like pre 2011
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| searmh |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:31
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Fantastic performance from hesjedal and Martin today. Ryder was fantastic and Martin is getting better....real proud of garmin today...two class riders |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:34
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Guido Mukk wrote:
moriz1 wrote:
Froome is the best example why I dislike power meters in racing. Maybe, we´re soon going to have 30 riders all starring at their stem and riding TTs up the mountains.
This was terrible to watch..man is not using he's brain..just 100% powermeter riding. We all know that you can get best out of you when you riding with powermeter.
No acceleration..just steady max pace what you can take..
Ugly..terrible to watch..this device killing cycling more then any race radio.
Spot on froome on a bike is just not aesthetic pleasing and he seems more like someone on a exercise bike then a professional cyclist.
He is proof why lab-made cyclists are the worst and they will completely destroy the beauty and the thrill of watching cycling. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 06-09-2014 20:37
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dark_x2012 wrote:
I don't get why so many people say Froome has returned The real test is yet to come since we know he has problems with recuperation.
P.S Riis won't allow Contador to loose much more time in the mountains
We will see also Riis wont allow for such a waste of a rider like they did today with Zaugg , now its all hands on deck for Contador because if he had Zaugg with him, he would have used him to close the gap on Valverde and never have spent that power himself.
Contador can very well lose the race because of his team yet again. If it proves that today was just froome on a one night dance. |
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| Movistar |
Posted on 06-09-2014 21:42
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Shonak wrote:
Movistar wrote:
Once Navarro went, i dont think a spanish rider even did more than coast. That stage was simply a case of giving a spanish rider a win in a spanish race. Bouhanni was 5th and though he is a decent climber I guess, so are other sprinters. Once Navarro went none of the spanish guys touched a pedal harder than they realistically had to.
So apparently Dani Moreno is not spanish? 
Because one out of how many chased him, my point is not valid? When clearly they were as good or better based on every other days racing. |
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| Movistar |
Posted on 06-09-2014 21:44
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Spot on froome on a bike is just not aesthetic pleasing and he seems more like someone on a exercise bike then a professional cyclist.
Thats because he IS riding it like it is a training bike.
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 06-09-2014 22:49
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Do you blame him for riding like that though. Far more efficient way to ride instead of attacking like a peanut. Don't think Froomey cares. |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 06-09-2014 22:57
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And once again we're coming to part of cycling where everyone blames a certain rider for being smart ("not riding entertaining way" ). Those situations were always happening and will always happen. Remember, 2 months ago, when Sagan was just sitting on Kittel's wheel, getting constant 2nd position and getting alot of valuable points for green jersey. Nobody liked that and there's small amount of people that like him nowdays because of it, but no one can say that wasn't an intelligent move.
The same situation happened with Froome today. Of course he's being smart by not attacking and not wasting huge amount of energy that way. Acceleration itself takes alot of energy from cyclist and I can't see a single reason why would anyone hate him because of that.
I am sorry if anyone gets offended, but hating cyclists just because of their style of riding bike is plain stupid. Just as we have Contador on one side, who's literally not touching his seat at all while climbing, we do have another group of guys who are not even trying to jump out their seats or accelerate and are just riding their own tempo. Zubeldia, besides Froome, is a perfect example of this.
Today's last few km's were, among other things, extremely entertaining because of Froome's yo-yo riding style. It's just great to see someone dropping off the peloton and getting the energy to come back later and even overtake the leaders of the race later.
Pretty sure that Froome, or any other professional cyclist except Brajkovic maybe (), won't read this conversation, so just being mad at them because of it is crazy.
Edited by admirschleck on 07-09-2014 01:10
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| Kalach |
Posted on 06-09-2014 22:57
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Can someone explain me how that power meter which is Froome using works? What are advantages of using that power meter? Why only SKY is using that? Other teams cannot or dont want or what? Thanks for explanation |
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| Omloop |
Posted on 07-09-2014 01:06
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I actually think Froome has funny riding style. And to those of you who are saying he doesn't accelerate(He attacked today), I don't think you've seen Froome over the past couple of years. I would rather watch Froome's steady and werid riding rather then Contador's cockroach dancing style any day. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 07-09-2014 02:56
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I don't know whats the matter...I am starting to like Froome, because of his riding style...it's different, of course, but he doesn't want to look good...he wants to win(like everyone, except sagan )
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Posted on 07-09-2014 03:16
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admirschleck wrote:
And once again we're coming to part of cycling where everyone blames a certain rider for being smart ("not riding entertaining way" ). Those situations were always happening and will always happen. Remember, 2 months ago, when Sagan was just sitting on Kittel's wheel, getting constant 2nd position and getting alot of valuable points for green jersey. Nobody liked that and there's small amount of people that like him nowdays because of it, but no one can say that wasn't an intelligent move.
The same situation happened with Froome today. Of course he's being smart by not attacking and not wasting huge amount of energy that way. Acceleration itself takes alot of energy from cyclist and I can't see a single reason why would anyone hate him because of that.
I am sorry if anyone gets offended, but hating cyclists just because of their style of riding bike is plain stupid. Just as we have Contador on one side, who's literally not touching his seat at all while climbing, we do have another group of guys who are not even trying to jump out their seats or accelerate and are just riding their own tempo. Zubeldia, besides Froome, is a perfect example of this.
Today's last few km's were, among other things, extremely entertaining because of Froome's yo-yo riding style. It's just great to see someone dropping off the peloton and getting the energy to come back later and even overtake the leaders of the race later.
Pretty sure that Froome, or any other professional cyclist except Brajkovic maybe ( ), won't read this conversation, so just being mad at them because of it is crazy.
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 07-09-2014 04:55
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Spoiler Riis123 wrote:
Nin1388 wrote:
This might not be good for Froome though. Now everyone knows he is strong. So like 2012 Vuelta riders will just prefer to sit behind him and then out sprint him. Will expect him to close gaps if favourites attack. But that will all be changed if he manages to drop them all. Sadly for him there are no long 10 kms plus climbs which he prefers.
1. No, everyone didn't do that. Froome was way below par after TdF, while Contador and Rodriguez didn't ride it and Valverde didn't ride the GC. It was a fight between 3 riders almost the entire race while Froome barely managed to get 4th, almost 10 minutes below Contador if memory serves.
2. The last 3 climbs are all over 10 km (Lagos de Covadonga, Lagos de Somiedo and Puerto de Ancares. This is probably one of the most factual false posts i have ever read in here, lol.
Sorry about that. As far as 2nd part is concerned I agree I made factual error.
About 1st part I'm not wrong. Froome did ride for GC at Vuelta 2012. He even managed to drop Valverde/Contador on one of stages. And when he was finally like 2 min down, he gave up the ghost. |
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