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| Ste117 |
Posted on 09-09-2010 23:26
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Nibali lost time to Anton on a average mountain top finish, look at Sastre not good on the average climbs but in his prime he could punish poeple on the steeper climbs, it all comes down to your strengths on certain climbs, or if you have an off day, but to say he will never win a GT is just ridiculos, he shows promise, he still young, so what if Gesink has finished on the poduim before Nibali, its not a race to see who finishes on a GT podium first, Nibqli has had good foundations laid down for him at Liquigas, a team more than capable off improving him to be a GT winner in my opinion, he is one of the best young talents out there.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 07:45
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ruben wrote:
Gesink was 2nd in the Vuelta last year Guido, it's unfair to refer to him being 6th just becaus ehe lost 4 minutes due to a hole in his knee the size of Tokio
So actually, Gesink already was at podium level, before Nibali ever did a GT podium (giro 2010), and Gesink is 2 years younger as well
1 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 78:56:42
2 Robert Gesink (Ned) Rabobank 0:00:32
3 Samuel Sánchez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0:01:10
4 Ivan Basso (Ita) Liquigas 0:01:29
5 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence-Lotto 0:01:51
6 Ezequiel Mosquera (Spa) Xacobeo Galicia 0:01:55
7 JoaquÃm RodrÃguez (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 0:05:54
8 Paolo Tiralongo (Ita) Lampre-NGC 0:06:35
9 Philip Deignan (Irl) Cervélo TestTeam 0:07:49
10 Juan José Cobo (Spa) Fuji-Servetto 0:10:46
You got owned Guido, just stop discussing, your losing 
Gesink already showed the ability to ride podium in a GT last year. And he would have without a fall, a REAL MAN would admit that Guido.
And stop your mumbling about average, i never said that. I just said he is no GT winner. And will always be stuck
Gesink came 6th, next you will be arguing that Rasmussen already won a grand tour, as did Landis, oh and Schleck, and Sanchez came third in the TDF this year, and Sastre won the Giro because if he hadn't been injurerd he would have easily done it. In fact Soler has been the best GT climber the past 2 years.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 10-09-2010 08:18
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ruben wrote:
Gesink was 2nd in the Vuelta last year Guido, it's unfair to refer to him being 6th just becaus ehe lost 4 minutes due to a hole in his knee the size of Tokio
I hate If arguments. That makes Beloki also as Tour winner without that career killer crash. Armstrong would made it to the podium without a crash. Valverde would won 2006 TdF without crash..etc..etc.
What ever and how strong your If argument is..It is still IF.
So actually, Gesink already was at podium level, before Nibali ever did a GT podium (giro 2010), and Gesink is 2 years younger as well
actualy he did not made it to the podium..
You got owned Guido, just stop discussing, your losing
Gesink already showed the ability to ride podium in a GT last year. And he would have without a fall, a REAL MAN would admit that Guido.
and he did fall, and he keep on falling (Soler exampla was nice). ..and again Gesink still never made it to the podium. He has potential..shure..but he never made it so far.
And stop your mumbling about average, i never said that. I just said he is no GT winner. And will always be stuck
I can stop that one..only last point. Sad that Pellizotti dope strory spoiled Nibali 2010 calendar and he was placed to Giro list. |
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 10-09-2010 08:25
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And the real conclusion of the discussion is that Ruben is still 14 years old. For the 7th year in a row.
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| ruben |
Posted on 10-09-2010 10:36
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Why do I even react to Guido. It's useless. he is too blind for words
Gesink beat Nibali in EVERY diirect confrontation uphill and in Tirreno/Pais Vasco/Dauphine.
He did a better Tour (6th) than Nibali (7th) in a stronger field.
He did a better vuelta (actually fighting for the win and putting time into others uphill) than Nibali so far is doing, and you know goddamn well he would have podiummed without a fall, so stop your "he has the potential" he has the ABILITY to. He already showed so. F*ck off
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 10-09-2010 10:40
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Has the next stage started yet? That should stop the latest round of Guido vs Ruben .. at least until the stage ends 
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| ruben |
Posted on 10-09-2010 10:43
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Your right, I just wish this forum had an ignore mode at times. Then I'd be 70% less active on this forum |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 10-09-2010 11:42
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PCM.daily wouldn't be the same without the Guido and Ruben arguments
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:32
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you can wake up now everyone. Stuffs about to happen
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:35
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doddy13 wrote:
you can wake up now everyone. Stuffs about to happen
Garmin and HTC working "together".. Hmm..
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:37
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And Terpstra attacks and the breakaway is dead.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:39
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doddy13 wrote:
And Terpstra attacks and the breakaway is dead.
Terpstra is going fast, but i bet he will get caught,.
Your tip for the stage win?
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:40
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hillis91 wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
And Terpstra attacks and the breakaway is dead.
Terpstra is going fast, but i bet he will get caught,.
Your tip for the stage win?
If it's a sprint (which it is), you just cannot look past Cavendish, no matter where you're from, who you support.
So, my tip is Cavendish 1st, Farrar 2nd. And hey why not Stauff 3rd.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:41
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doddy13 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
And Terpstra attacks and the breakaway is dead.
Terpstra is going fast, but i bet he will get caught,.
Your tip for the stage win?
If it's a sprint (which it is), you just cannot look past Cavendish, no matter where you're from, who you support.
So, my tip is Cavendish 1st, Farrar 2nd. And hey why not Stauff 3rd.
Sounds reasonable, it will be Farrar vs. Cavendish. And then Hushovd will fight with the others to get the 3rd(if he decides to sprint)
Bennati got 2 guys with him.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:42
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Katusha ok..
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:42
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doddy13 wrote:
Katusha ok..
Cav with Hushovd and Bennati on his wheel!"
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:43
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Looooong sprint. Amazing win. |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:43
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1. Cavendish
2. Hushovd
3. Bennati
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:43
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CrueTrue wrote:
Looooong sprint. Amazing win.
Looked like a TT finish
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 10-09-2010 16:44
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wow, nice one for Cavendish, made even better by a rather nicely executed bunny hop. We need a points contest that takes style into account. McEwen gets the points for wheelies over mountains
Also, great "ride fast" by Hushovd, he didn't actually sprint did he?
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