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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:20
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Ruben wrote:
I think in the mountain stages with multiple climbs and the real though, steep ones, Lövkvist will get intro trouble. Today he almost cracked as 6th/7th, but luckily nobody helped Basso. Most of the favourites are still trying to save as much strength as possible for the 61km TT and the final mountain stages, if you keep that in mind, and see Lövkvist is already at the limit, you know enough I think.
This is in no way an 'attack' on Lövkvist btw, he did great and suprised me and many others by doing so well so far.
I completely agree. Also keep in mind that this stage was rather short. Whenever we've been racing for a week, long stages, longer mountains, more mountains, I'm quite sure that we'll see Lövkvist crack - just like he almost did today. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:21
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Michal4444 wrote:
pangare wrote:
Columbia, Garmin and Astana are the only teams i believe that are clean
Let me guess. You are an American aren´t you?
Nope, he's not.
Don't knock him, he's got a much more realistic mindset than most fans  (*looks menacingly at Saxo Bank fanboys*)
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
You're 13 or 14 or something, aren't you?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:21
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Michal4444 wrote:
pangare wrote:
Columbia, Garmin and Astana are the only teams i believe that are clean
Let me guess. You are an American aren´t you?
Portuguese. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:22
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You have probably talked about it..but Di Luca is looking scary strong..remembers me 2007 year Giro a lot..
Basso is strong..look how he made clear today..Who is team leader.
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| Michal4444 |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:23
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issoisso wrote:
Michal4444 wrote:
pangare wrote:
Columbia, Garmin and Astana are the only teams i believe that are clean
Let me guess. You are an American aren´t you?
Nope, he's not.
Don't knock him, he's got a much more realistic mindset than most fans (*looks menacingly at Saxo Bank fanboys*)
Sorry - just guessing from team names No offence meant |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:23
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Guido Mukk wrote:
You have probably talked about it..but Di Luca is looking scary strong..remembers me 2007 year Giro a lot..
Basso is strong..look how he made clear today..Who is team leader.
Di Luca was pretty good in the first mountain stages last year too and then start losing time.
Menchov, Basso and Leipheimer still looking like the favourites for the final win, with a big question over Di Luca.
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:24
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alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
Edited by Biathlon on 13-05-2009 18:24
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:26
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Biathlon wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
He definitely did previously as he is (or was?) a part of the Humanplasma case (along with Boogerd, Rasmussen and one more). |
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| untal |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:27
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Michal4444 wrote:
pangare wrote:
Columbia, Garmin and Astana are the only teams i believe that are clean
Let me guess. You are an American aren´t you?
He was joking, I believe |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:27
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Biathlon wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
winning a stage with an attack in the last kilometre is now way like dominating every race and stage mountain/TT you are in.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:28
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What was Astana doing today..why they wasted 4 guys to help Armstrong (or this 4 just wanted renew contract)..they should focus on Leipheimer. Forget that Lance..(team owner)..
alex don't forget Sastre he is not out..he will be always there..better and better every day. Not for tour win..but close to podium.
You can drop Sastre but he will come back at the moment later. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:29
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I agree with Guido. Wierd choice of tactics from Astana. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:30
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CrueTrue wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
He definitely did previously as he is (or was?) a part of the Humanplasma case (along with Boogerd, Rasmussen and one more).
I think was is the correct one there. Also I'm not sure if Menchov was there, I remember Ruben talking about Boogerd, Rasmussen, Weening and Posthuma I think.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:30
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Guido Mukk wrote:
What was Astana doing today..why they wasted 4 guys to help Armstrong (or this 4 just wanted renew contract)..
Maybe they want a contract with Lance's new team 
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:31
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alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
winning a stage with an attack in the last kilometre is now way like dominating every race and stage mountain/TT you are in.
Not everybody dominates when they use dope... Maybe he is not close to the level of the others so with some dope he gets up to that level or to a bit higher level..
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:32
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issoisso wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
What was Astana doing today..why they wasted 4 guys to help Armstrong (or this 4 just wanted renew contract)..
Maybe they want a contract with Lance's new team
where I feel that we won't see Contador 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:40
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To show you how relative performances are:
If this were the 2007 field, we'd be here talking about how Di Luca crushed Simoni and the others.
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| ruben |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:49
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CrueTrue wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
He definitely did previously as he is (or was?) a part of the Humanplasma case (along with Boogerd, Rasmussen and one more).
Which had no proof at all btw, (not in the slightest comparable to Puerto)
I'm suprised you still take that seriously. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:49
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alexkr00 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Astana is now 100% clean!!
just like Gerolsteiner
No not like Gerol.
Menchov just won today. So maybe we shall say he use dope to?
He definitely did previously as he is (or was?) a part of the Humanplasma case (along with Boogerd, Rasmussen and one more).
I think was is the correct one there. Also I'm not sure if Menchov was there, I remember Ruben talking about Boogerd, Rasmussen, Weening and Posthuma I think.
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| ruben |
Posted on 13-05-2009 18:51
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Hell the german newspapers even apoligized for that message, saying they just got a list from an anonymous source with names, and nothing else, and nothing ever was proven.
If a german newspaper apoligizes, you know enough. It was fake... |
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